Sills or bodywork?
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Sills or bodywork?
Hi. My sills need patching up/replacing. And also my bodywork needs doing. Etc arches roof bonnet. I do have enough saved up to now to get the sills done. But which do I get done first? Bodywork or rotted sills? Or save that bit more and get them done at the same time? He car is a v5 type r. Cheers
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I would have a go myself at prepping it but I'm not to sure I'm confident on doing the arches properly myself. The roof and bonnet I could have a go at to save me some ££. But don't fancy doing the sills myself lol
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Try this link, these guys are car restorers and are bang on.
http://www.villageservicestation.co.uk
Very reasonable prices for welding and paintwork.
http://www.villageservicestation.co.uk
Very reasonable prices for welding and paintwork.
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That's abit far from me i think. Thanks though. Think il get it all done at the same time. The sills are rotted so will need welding so it won't get any worse than it is in a short amount of time. The arced concern me with the winter on the way with all the ****ty salt. Hopefully I can find a decent body repair garage who do welding and restoration in the north west area.
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Im working on my wrx wagon. .personally id work from the bottom up..luckily I only had 2 small patches on the sills to weld up so they've been done, primed and now undersealed ;-)
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Well I don't no the nastyness of my sills yet because I haven't took the skirts off. But at thy bottom of the arches and the jacking point are goosed. I poked a hole in it with my key sills first I think.
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The good new is the sill only *usually* rot at the rear end, which is an easy repair. Get the arches checked too whilst its there, its a common classic weak point.
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Rear arches are a killer on classics... After spending many hours under the arches I have found the reason that most classics bubble on the rear corner of the rear arch. This area is actually not the problem but is caused by the main problem of a poorly designed seem.
If you look right up into the arch at the top there is a metal cap which serves as the flat face that the top mount attaches to. This metal cap is square and three of the sides extend about an inch down the inside of the arch with the metal of the cap over the top of the arch metal. This means that water and debris can't collect on the seem it just runs off. However the outer most face is opposite and the top cap part goes behind the arch wall. This leaves a nice exposed ledge for water and mud to sit on and seep down between the two bits of metal. This causes the seem to rot completely and can usually be seen if you remove the interior trim the covers the rear suspension turrets in the car near the c pillars. You can also see it if you remove the boot side trim and look right down the side of the arch inside the panel through the boot.
This seem then drips rusty water down onto the corner of the arch which is two sheets of metal layered on top of each other with spot welds. The two pieces are sealed but the metal beneath the sealer is bare and not primed at all! So the sealer absorbs water and the seem rust again showing small bubbles on the outside corner of the arch. If this goes on for long enough you will find that the complete inside of the rear wing rusts away even if the outside looks fine. If the seem in the arch had been designed with the upper part overlapping it would never happen and priming the metal work before sealing as most of the other areas are would also have helped...
It's annoying that the problem area is also the hardest bit to get to and the hardest bit to see or work on. To even see the problem you have the remove the rear struts and hubs and the interior trim.
I guess when you make a car you don't car if it falls to bits in ten years time...
If you look right up into the arch at the top there is a metal cap which serves as the flat face that the top mount attaches to. This metal cap is square and three of the sides extend about an inch down the inside of the arch with the metal of the cap over the top of the arch metal. This means that water and debris can't collect on the seem it just runs off. However the outer most face is opposite and the top cap part goes behind the arch wall. This leaves a nice exposed ledge for water and mud to sit on and seep down between the two bits of metal. This causes the seem to rot completely and can usually be seen if you remove the interior trim the covers the rear suspension turrets in the car near the c pillars. You can also see it if you remove the boot side trim and look right down the side of the arch inside the panel through the boot.
This seem then drips rusty water down onto the corner of the arch which is two sheets of metal layered on top of each other with spot welds. The two pieces are sealed but the metal beneath the sealer is bare and not primed at all! So the sealer absorbs water and the seem rust again showing small bubbles on the outside corner of the arch. If this goes on for long enough you will find that the complete inside of the rear wing rusts away even if the outside looks fine. If the seem in the arch had been designed with the upper part overlapping it would never happen and priming the metal work before sealing as most of the other areas are would also have helped...
It's annoying that the problem area is also the hardest bit to get to and the hardest bit to see or work on. To even see the problem you have the remove the rear struts and hubs and the interior trim.
I guess when you make a car you don't car if it falls to bits in ten years time...
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