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Old 06 June 2013, 03:08 PM
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Default well,my 1st time on the rollers and...........

the engine has spun its bottom end bearings,to say im gutted is an understatement.the car was pulling really well with no signs of problems,we took it outside to give it a road test and the dreaded sound reared its head.the bottom end only has 40k on it and has been really well looked after its also running a cosworth oil pump but these things happen.

full spec of the car..........

uk sti bottom end supplied new by powerstation in nov 2008 @57k due to original engine spinning its bottom end,car now on 98k so bottom end has only done just over 40k,fitted with the original wrx heads (on 98k now) fitted with cosworth high pressure oil pump/roger clark waterpump

sti inlet manifold-tumbler delete

roger clark motorsport headers with venturi up-pipe fully heat wrapped

japspeed 3" bore bell mouth de-cat downpipe fully heat wrapped

afterburner 3" bore de-cat center section

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sti top-mount intercooler with sti scoop tray and hard y-pipe

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vf35 turbo

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650cc injectors cleaned and flow tested

import sti version 6 close ratio gearbox with stage 2 organic clutch

heres the graphs,as you can see its a really good curve and great power from a vf35.time to weigh up my options now as im ****ing skint









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Sorry to hear that mate,it sounds like a 2.1 is calling you.SJ.
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awful luck fella. even worse if your skint.

id look at a second hand sti lump and ecu as you have all the bits and bobs to bolt onto it.
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Sorry I did not read that bit about being skint.time to put the overtime in me thinks.SJ.
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Sorry I did not read that bit about being skint.time to put the overtime in me thinks.SJ.

of course he is skint, he owns an impreza.


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awful luck fella. even worse if your skint.

id look at a second hand sti lump and ecu as you have all the bits and bobs to bolt onto it.
well this was an sti bottom end with only 40k on it and it was ran @ 263bhp until today and its dead so i dont think i will invest in another sti lump to be fair as they cant be that good surely? time to make a decision on if to break or save and rebuild
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
well this was an sti bottom end with only 40k on it and it was ran @ 263bhp until today and its dead so i dont think i will invest in another sti lump to be fair as they cant be that good surely? time to make a decision on if to break or save and rebuild

newage sti bottom ends are usually pretty bullet proof at that power.

must be a fault somewhere to go at that bhp.


good luck with whatever you do mate, shame to see your hard work and saving for decent mods to go to waste.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
newage sti bottom ends are usually pretty bullet proof at that power.

must be a fault somewhere to go at that bhp.


good luck with whatever you do mate, shame to see your hard work and saving for decent mods to go to waste.
thats the bad thing about it,trying to determine what caused it or is it just bad luck.............
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thats the bad thing about it,trying to determine what caused it or is it just bad luck.............


all I can say about reading your problems you seem to have had with your car from day one personally id get rid.

I had a car years ago that no matter what I did and bought it would just break.

sold it on and bought another one which has been pretty reliable so far.


I guess once you start modding them they are going to break eventually.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
all I can say about reading your problems you seem to have had with your car from day one personally id get rid.

I had a car years ago that no matter what I did and bought it would just break.

sold it on and bought another one which has been pretty reliable so far.


I guess once you start modding them they are going to break eventually.
ive not really had any major problems to be honest

-i had to replace the original turbo after 98k it was goosed-these dont last forever

-the brakes gave me a nightmare as the persons that fitted them had never head of a torque wrench/copper grease.cant blame the car for this

and the gearbox had to be changed but it wasnt a major hassle

looking through the service history the car up to 57k when the original engine failed was given a engine flush with every oil change........

the car has been super reliable using no liquids between servicing and i have never had to take it to my mechanic for anything else other than mentioned so i wouldnt say its been un-reliable

i think i am going to save for a rebuild and go for a stroker..........if im going to do it im gonna do it properly.

what do you think of the graphs?
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the graphs look great, spools quick and pulling up to red line.
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As TT has said newage sti lumps are pretty bullet proof but like anything man made can break but its a very rare occurrence,you have a few options either break car,sell car,engine replacement or rebuild,but I guess being skint does not help,my advice don't rush into a decision sleep on it and give it some good thought,whatever you decide mate i wish you all the best.SJ.
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
As TT has said newage sti lumps are pretty bullet proof but like anything man made can break but its a very rare occurrence,you have a few options either break car,sell car,engine replacement or rebuild,but I guess being skint does not help,my advice don't rush into a decision sleep on it and give it some good thought,whatever you decide mate i wish you all the best.SJ.
i have rushed things before-never again.im going to speak to pr developments over the weekend and see what my options are but im leaning towards a 2.1 stroker

cheers guys
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oh ill take the headers



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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
oh ill take a headbutt



you will take a headbutt.............can be arranged
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
i have rushed things before-never again.im going to speak to pr developments over the weekend and see what my options are but im leaning towards a 2.1 stroker

cheers guys
That's what I would do,it would be rude not toSJ.
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the thing is with building a big power car based on a wrx is the need for a 6 speed box to take the power.

the reason you want a 2.1 is to make big bhp otherwise there is no point.

so its going to cost big £££ as you need box and turbo etc depending on your end goal bhp wise id consider breaking and buying a newage sti.

just my opinion as I know some of us become attached to a car.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
the thing is with building a big power car based on a wrx is the need for a 6 speed box to take the power.

the reason you want a 2.1 is to make big bhp otherwise there is no point.

so its going to cost big £££ as you need box and turbo etc depending on your end goal bhp wise id consider breaking and buying a newage sti.

just my opinion as I know some of us become attached to a car.
well i would do a 2.1 stroker for now and run it with my current set-up until i can afford a 6-speed etc

yeah i could break and go and spunk £7k on a half decent sti BUT that would still be a second hand engine filling me with not much confidence,it could go like this one has then i will be back to square one.with building a stroker now at least i can spread the cost and buy parts when i have spare cash
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
well i would do a 2.1 stroker for now and run it with my current set-up until i can afford a 6-speed etc

yeah i could break and go and spunk £7k on a half decent sti BUT that would still be a second hand engine filling me with not much confidence,it could go like this one has then i will be back to square one.with building a stroker now at least i can spread the cost and buy parts when i have spare cash

sounds like you have thought about you options.

out of interest whats a 2.1 cost?
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What TT is saying is correct but a 6 speed box can wait until you can afford one,I think Wiley was running a 5 speed box with his engine tuner rebuild for a while without problems,so you should be ok and when the money is there then drop a 6 speed in.SJ.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
sounds like you have thought about you options.

out of interest whats a 2.1 cost?
speaking to pr developments a few weeks ago total cost would be around £3k-£3.5k fitted depending on where i get the kit from,looking at advanced automotive/lateral/rcm at the min
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
sounds like you have thought about you options.

out of interest whats a 2.1 cost?
Lateral performance does a 2.1 stroker kit for around £1700 which a lot of big power cars are running or you could source the parts from the USA like what I did from real street performance talk to Trevor he's spot on.SJ.
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Lateral performance does a 2.1 stroker kit for around £1700 which a lot of big power cars are running or you could source the parts from the USA like what I did from real street performance talk to Trevor he's spot on.SJ.
ok mate will start looking over the weekend cheers
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
all I can say about reading your problems you seem to have had with your car from day one personally id get rid.

I had a car years ago that no matter what I did and bought it would just break.

sold it on and bought another one which has been pretty reliable so far.


I guess once you start modding them they are going to break eventually.
Escort RS Turbo? haha
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speaking to pr developments a few weeks ago total cost would be around £3k-£3.5k fitted depending on where i get the kit from,looking at advanced automotive/lateral/rcm at the min
Advanced Automotive are a quality set up as well I have ordered plenty of parts from there also with top quality service and delivery when they say it will be there its there,talk to Cath.SJ.
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Escort RS Turbo? haha

as it happens it was.

f848 cth where are you now???

sold in 1996, sorry if you bought it
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
Advanced Automotive are a quality set up as well I have ordered plenty of parts from there also with top quality service and delivery when they say it will be there its there,talk to Cath.SJ.
yeah,pr developments use these guys aswell
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
as it happens it was.

f848 cth where are you now???

sold in 1996, sorry if you bought it
haha typical CVH! im guessing it was modded? llol standard there pritty reliable, but slow these days, modded and they just go pop....
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haha typical CVH! im guessing it was modded? llol standard there pritty reliable, but slow these days, modded and they just go pop....

it was just a bag of problems, not really modded.
just **** build quality really.

ecu broke, abs packed up, alarm issues. smoke on start up like fog due to valve stem seals etc
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anybody know if it will be a ball-ache fitting avcs heads to my car when the rebuild takes place?


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