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the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:08 PM

well,my 1st time on the rollers and...........
 
the engine has spun its bottom end bearings,to say im gutted is an understatement.the car was pulling really well with no signs of problems,we took it outside to give it a road test and the dreaded sound reared its head.the bottom end only has 40k on it and has been really well looked after its also running a cosworth oil pump but these things happen.

full spec of the car..........

uk sti bottom end supplied new by powerstation in nov 2008 @57k due to original engine spinning its bottom end,car now on 98k so bottom end has only done just over 40k,fitted with the original wrx heads (on 98k now) fitted with cosworth high pressure oil pump/roger clark waterpump

sti inlet manifold-tumbler delete

roger clark motorsport headers with venturi up-pipe fully heat wrapped

japspeed 3" bore bell mouth de-cat downpipe fully heat wrapped

afterburner 3" bore de-cat center section

afterburner raptor backbox

pfr7b plugs

roger clark induction kit

roger clark 340 fuel pump

sti top-mount intercooler with sti scoop tray and hard y-pipe

oem recirc valve

vf35 turbo

3-port boost solenoid

650cc injectors cleaned and flow tested

import sti version 6 close ratio gearbox with stage 2 organic clutch

heres the graphs,as you can see its a really good curve and great power from a vf35.time to weigh up my options now as im ****ing skint :cry::cry::cry:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps408824cb.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...pse0a1ce55.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psd6f64831.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps227f6292.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...psd60dcec1.jpg

stonejedi 06 June 2013 03:13 PM

Sorry to hear that mate,it sounds like a 2.1 is calling you.SJ.

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:14 PM

awful luck fella. even worse if your skint.

id look at a second hand sti lump and ecu as you have all the bits and bobs to bolt onto it.

stonejedi 06 June 2013 03:15 PM

Sorry I did not read that bit about being skint.time to put the overtime in me thinks.SJ.

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11112111)
Sorry I did not read that bit about being skint.time to put the overtime in me thinks.SJ.


of course he is skint, he owns an impreza.


bloody money pits

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112110)
awful luck fella. even worse if your skint.

id look at a second hand sti lump and ecu as you have all the bits and bobs to bolt onto it.

well this was an sti bottom end with only 40k on it and it was ran @ 263bhp until today and its dead so i dont think i will invest in another sti lump to be fair as they cant be that good surely? time to make a decision on if to break or save and rebuild :mad::mad::mad:

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11112117)
well this was an sti bottom end with only 40k on it and it was ran @ 263bhp until today and its dead so i dont think i will invest in another sti lump to be fair as they cant be that good surely? time to make a decision on if to break or save and rebuild :mad::mad::mad:


newage sti bottom ends are usually pretty bullet proof at that power.

must be a fault somewhere to go at that bhp.


good luck with whatever you do mate, shame to see your hard work and saving for decent mods to go to waste.

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112119)
newage sti bottom ends are usually pretty bullet proof at that power.

must be a fault somewhere to go at that bhp.


good luck with whatever you do mate, shame to see your hard work and saving for decent mods to go to waste.

thats the bad thing about it,trying to determine what caused it or is it just bad luck.............

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11112120)
thats the bad thing about it,trying to determine what caused it or is it just bad luck.............



all I can say about reading your problems you seem to have had with your car from day one personally id get rid.

I had a car years ago that no matter what I did and bought it would just break.

sold it on and bought another one which has been pretty reliable so far.


I guess once you start modding them they are going to break eventually.

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112121)
all I can say about reading your problems you seem to have had with your car from day one personally id get rid.

I had a car years ago that no matter what I did and bought it would just break.

sold it on and bought another one which has been pretty reliable so far.


I guess once you start modding them they are going to break eventually.

ive not really had any major problems to be honest

-i had to replace the original turbo after 98k it was goosed-these dont last forever

-the brakes gave me a nightmare as the persons that fitted them had never head of a torque wrench/copper grease.cant blame the car for this

and the gearbox had to be changed but it wasnt a major hassle

looking through the service history the car up to 57k when the original engine failed was given a engine flush with every oil change........:nono::nono::nono:

the car has been super reliable using no liquids between servicing and i have never had to take it to my mechanic for anything else other than mentioned so i wouldnt say its been un-reliable

i think i am going to save for a rebuild and go for a stroker..........if im going to do it im gonna do it properly.

what do you think of the graphs?

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:33 PM

the graphs look great, spools quick and pulling up to red line.

stonejedi 06 June 2013 03:33 PM

As TT has said newage sti lumps are pretty bullet proof but like anything man made can break but its a very rare occurrence,you have a few options either break car,sell car,engine replacement or rebuild,but I guess being skint does not help,my advice don't rush into a decision sleep on it and give it some good thought,whatever you decide mate i wish you all the best.SJ.

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11112130)
As TT has said newage sti lumps are pretty bullet proof but like anything man made can break but its a very rare occurrence,you have a few options either break car,sell car,engine replacement or rebuild,but I guess being skint does not help,my advice don't rush into a decision sleep on it and give it some good thought,whatever you decide mate i wish you all the best.SJ.

i have rushed things before-never again.im going to speak to pr developments over the weekend and see what my options are but im leaning towards a 2.1 stroker

cheers guys

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:39 PM

oh ill take the headers ;)



http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0fd117ca.jpg

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112134)

you will take a headbutt.............can be arranged :)

stonejedi 06 June 2013 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11112132)
i have rushed things before-never again.im going to speak to pr developments over the weekend and see what my options are but im leaning towards a 2.1 stroker

cheers guys

That's what I would do,it would be rude not to;)SJ.

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:47 PM

the thing is with building a big power car based on a wrx is the need for a 6 speed box to take the power.

the reason you want a 2.1 is to make big bhp otherwise there is no point.

so its going to cost big £££ as you need box and turbo etc depending on your end goal bhp wise id consider breaking and buying a newage sti.

just my opinion as I know some of us become attached to a car.

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112140)
the thing is with building a big power car based on a wrx is the need for a 6 speed box to take the power.

the reason you want a 2.1 is to make big bhp otherwise there is no point.

so its going to cost big £££ as you need box and turbo etc depending on your end goal bhp wise id consider breaking and buying a newage sti.

just my opinion as I know some of us become attached to a car.

well i would do a 2.1 stroker for now and run it with my current set-up until i can afford a 6-speed etc

yeah i could break and go and spunk £7k on a half decent sti BUT that would still be a second hand engine filling me with not much confidence,it could go like this one has then i will be back to square one.with building a stroker now at least i can spread the cost and buy parts when i have spare cash

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11112144)
well i would do a 2.1 stroker for now and run it with my current set-up until i can afford a 6-speed etc

yeah i could break and go and spunk £7k on a half decent sti BUT that would still be a second hand engine filling me with not much confidence,it could go like this one has then i will be back to square one.with building a stroker now at least i can spread the cost and buy parts when i have spare cash


sounds like you have thought about you options.

out of interest whats a 2.1 cost?

stonejedi 06 June 2013 03:55 PM

What TT is saying is correct but a 6 speed box can wait until you can afford one,I think Wiley was running a 5 speed box with his engine tuner rebuild for a while without problems,so you should be ok and when the money is there then drop a 6 speed in.SJ.

the shreksta 06 June 2013 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112145)
sounds like you have thought about you options.

out of interest whats a 2.1 cost?

speaking to pr developments a few weeks ago total cost would be around £3k-£3.5k fitted depending on where i get the kit from,looking at advanced automotive/lateral/rcm at the min

stonejedi 06 June 2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112145)
sounds like you have thought about you options.

out of interest whats a 2.1 cost?

Lateral performance does a 2.1 stroker kit for around £1700 which a lot of big power cars are running or you could source the parts from the USA like what I did from real street performance talk to Trevor he's spot on.SJ.

the shreksta 06 June 2013 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11112155)
Lateral performance does a 2.1 stroker kit for around £1700 which a lot of big power cars are running or you could source the parts from the USA like what I did from real street performance talk to Trevor he's spot on.SJ.

ok mate will start looking over the weekend cheers

Ash170990 06 June 2013 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112121)
all I can say about reading your problems you seem to have had with your car from day one personally id get rid.

I had a car years ago that no matter what I did and bought it would just break.

sold it on and bought another one which has been pretty reliable so far.


I guess once you start modding them they are going to break eventually.

Escort RS Turbo? haha

stonejedi 06 June 2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11112153)
speaking to pr developments a few weeks ago total cost would be around £3k-£3.5k fitted depending on where i get the kit from,looking at advanced automotive/lateral/rcm at the min

Advanced Automotive are a quality set up as well I have ordered plenty of parts from there also with top quality service and delivery when they say it will be there its there,talk to Cath.SJ.

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Ash170990 (Post 11112158)
Escort RS Turbo? haha


as it happens it was.

f848 cth where are you now???

sold in 1996, sorry if you bought it

the shreksta 06 June 2013 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11112160)
Advanced Automotive are a quality set up as well I have ordered plenty of parts from there also with top quality service and delivery when they say it will be there its there,talk to Cath.SJ.

yeah,pr developments use these guys aswell

Ash170990 06 June 2013 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 11112161)
as it happens it was.

f848 cth where are you now???

sold in 1996, sorry if you bought it

haha typical CVH! im guessing it was modded? llol standard there pritty reliable, but slow these days, modded and they just go pop....

tubbytommy 06 June 2013 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Ash170990 (Post 11112164)
haha typical CVH! im guessing it was modded? llol standard there pritty reliable, but slow these days, modded and they just go pop....


it was just a bag of problems, not really modded.
just sh1t build quality really.

ecu broke, abs packed up, alarm issues. smoke on start up like fog due to valve stem seals etc

the shreksta 06 June 2013 04:10 PM

anybody know if it will be a ball-ache fitting avcs heads to my car when the rebuild takes place?


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