the shreksta

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i think this is the turbo that i am going to go with on my blob wrx,i dont want a cheap used vf series turbo or a 12 year old td05 16g

i use my car as a point to point car so i need quick spool and good mid-range

i might consider a 18g if i can find a good one but i keep hearing good thing about the sc range so i am tempted

the car is a 54 plate wrx

mods are (some not fitted but will be fitted with the turbo before mapping)

low mileage sti bottom end with roger clark water pump
cosworth oil pump high flow
cosworth panel filter
tgv deletes
hks ssqv altho im considering an oem recirc
sti top mount intercooler with hard y-pipe and sti scoop + undertray
650 cc injectors
upgrade fuel pump-more than likely be a roger clarke one 300lph
wrapped sti de-cat up-pipe
3" decat downpipe
3" decat center section (afterburner)
afterburner raptor backbox
fuel pressure regulator
pfr7b ngk plugs
import sti version 6 gearbox rebuilt by api 4 years ago-close ratio with a new exedy organic clutch

i am going to entrust mapping to duncan @ race dynamix-open source
map for me i think

anything else i can do mod wise or is it a pretty good spec? what do other people think of the sc36 compared to a 18g?

tubbytommy

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the scooby clinic turbos are all decent really, id just ring them for some advice on which one to get for your car.
your still running a 5 speed box etc so you dont want to run too much power and be in the broken box situation again.
im pretty sure the 36 number relates to 360bhp so im not sure your box will like that.

the shreksta

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the box came from a car that had been running 380bhp for 2-3 years,once the turbo and mapping is done with the next mod will be a 6 speed

tubbytommy

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should be fine then as you have a sti bottom so the engine should be ok, personally id ring the clinic and get there advice on what your power aim is and the current spec of your car.

im not sure you will really get a lot more power from an sc36 over a vf35 for the extra cost tbh

the shreksta

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i just dont want to pay £300 for a used vf35 then 6 months down the line have to replace it cos its smoking etc,i want a genuine low miles or new turbo that i can fit and forget

thats the only thing putting me off a used vf series

legacy_gtb

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And the SC range are the daddy's of spool!

loads more important than top end numbers! SC36 is a bloody good blower for 360bhp.

With meths theyve seen over 400 though. :-)

tubbytommy

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i know what you mean, id never buy a second hand turbo for that exact reason.
a new sc36 new aint gonna be cheap though, im sure you can get a vf35 checked out and verified its ok by a specialist far cheaper

the shreksta

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i have heard they are good,numbers dont really interest me-if it makes 340bhp then so be it-if it makes 370bhp then so be it

i want it to deliver the power quick and have plenty of mid-range guts for the straights i drive on

tubbytommy

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id say the sc36 would be a better drive and spool as the new ones are billet.
you get what you pay for really, the sc36 will be better but once you buy a new one and have it mapped your talking £1500 id think

if money is not the issue sc36 all day long

Henrik

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I used to drive an sc36 on a 2.1. It kind of felt like it was over before it began, so it wasn't fun at all. I'd say go for an sc38 or sc42.

the shreksta

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i think that a 38/42 would be a little much for what i use and the spec of my engine

i would be happy with a vf35 if i had a crystal ball that told me i would get a few years out of it but that aint the case,i could spend £300 + fitting a vf35 then x amount of months down the line will need a new one so its another £300 + fitting + waiting to find one if one isnt available,the only way i would touch one is if its a genuine low low mileage one

the shreksta

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also should i be using an inner wing induction kit or is the standard set up good enough with a decent panel filter? if i went for an induction kit would it make a turbo type dumping sound through it?

SouthWalesSam

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For what you say you want to use it for, and your current spec of mods, and ScoobyClinic's sample graphs (36/38/42) I think you want an SC38.

Good to excellent low down torque and a good (i.e. not peaky) power curve, according to their sample graphs. Talk to them, as said above.

the shreksta

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i just dont want to push the realms of reliability just for a few more horses,its an everyday car and i need it reliable

JohnnyDavies

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You will hear the turbo spool up and the recirc going with an induction kit but be warned I had an inner wing one fitted to my car when I bought it. It was a Japspeed or similar item but when I took it out to clean it was trashed, damp, rusty and ready for the bin..

terzoscooby

If you want spool then have a look at the SC32. It punches above its weight and spools very early. There is a clinic billet turbo thread on here where they recently posted the figures for an almost standard WRX. They are also bringing out an SC36BB. Give them a ring.

tubbytommy

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you need an fmic and then you have no choice but to fit induction kit then anyway and you will get the sound, an inner wing kit is fine if fitted correctly as the plastic arch liner stops the water providing your sensible in puddles etc.

JohnnyDavies

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Im also looking at similar mods to yourself on the same car and have just bought a VF48 for a very reasonable price with no cracks etc. Dynamix Duncan recons this should make 330 on my car when mapped so might be worth considering

terzoscooby

SC32 will make that on tmic.
https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread.php?t=799025&page=144

the shreksta

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didnt really wanna go the fmic route as it makes it a tad more laggy.

i have given the sc32 thought but i think i want a bit more grunt than it can deliver,still its a cracking turbo with great results

adz556

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I have an sc36 turbo and love it!! Very nice to drive!!

the shreksta

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what car/mods etc

when does it boost/what power did it make and does it give you throw back in the seat mid range punch?

adz556

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I have a blob wrx. Was running pink injectors, 3" decat, Sti top mount, cold air feed, uprated silicon hoses everywhere, Scooby clinic decat up pipe, walbro fuel pump..... I asked pat to keep the power below 350 due to the gearbox and I got 349.7 with my ecutek map.

It hit full boost around 3600rpm and pulled flat all the way to the red line on my graphs. The kick is awesome. My previous tuning stage was 280hp on the td4 and this felt like another beast in comparison.

tubbytommy

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Who told you that??
A decent properly mapped fmic has no lag

the shreksta

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oh right,i was made to think that on a small to mid range turbo with a front mount it was going to be laggy

jura11

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Hi there

Personally I would rather invest money to the 6speed(will be better on longer) and turbo choices,depends on budget,but used one SC38 or MD321H will begreat turbo,as SC36 should be good on yours

FMIC I would consider,will be cheaper on longer run and you can recoup money with selling yours TMIC.With FMIC yes can be laggy,but you will never actually feel this difference,yes you can feel when FMIC is not designed for that(have bigger pipes,bigger IC pipework can cause lag etc.) or if its mapped incorrectly,if you have budget and you want best TMIC speak to Chevron,just don't be surprised by price(I mean very surprised)

Jura

adz556

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From selling my sti top mount it cost me £10 to get a brand new japspeed front mount! Gives you an idea