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Old 14 January 2013, 06:34 PM
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Can these be fitted without any machining to standard block?

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Old 14 January 2013, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo900
Can these be fitted without any machining to standard block?

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Will need to be bored or honed to suit clearance, if you just throw them in they will be either too tight or end up with horrid piston slap and high oil consumption with a very noisy engine.
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Thats maybe why my car is detecting so much knock then? Lol
Old 14 January 2013, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo900
Thats maybe why my car is detecting so much knock then? Lol
as per the other thread ideally they need machined to suite, Unless the bores are generally spot on or a brand new block
Old 14 January 2013, 08:50 PM
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Think the garage is feeding me a lot of mince. They think i'm stupid and wont question what they say. Getting fed up now. Time for not being so understanding!!!
Old 14 January 2013, 09:57 PM
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What pistons are you refering too?

If there 92mm then more than lickley you will have a large bore clearence depending on your state of liner, keep in mind a light hone is needed for the new rings.

If you are running .25/.5 oversize then you can set your piston manufacturer advised bore clearence or to what you wish.

All the best with it.
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Originally Posted by turbo900
Think the garage is feeding me a lot of mince. They think i'm stupid and wont question what they say. Getting fed up now. Time for not being so understanding!!!
Have it rebuilt elsewere and send them the bill
Old 14 January 2013, 10:15 PM
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I would if i knew they'd pay
Been patient but getting fed with limited answers. Car is back in for the e.ngine builder and dealer to look into and listen to car from cold and hot and decide how they plan to fix it!

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Notes:
SUBARU WRX 2.5L STI | 100.0mmbore | 79.0mmstroke | 130.4mmrod | 30.7mmc/h | 23mmpin | -22ccvol | 405g | 8.5c/r | 4032

Wrx209937122 could be what they fitted. Presume these need hone/bore
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Hell aye it will have needed bored for those.
std pistons are 99.5mm.
Those are half a mm bigger plus the correct running clearance
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Originally Posted by turbo900
Notes:
SUBARU WRX 2.5L STI | 100.0mmbore | 79.0mmstroke | 130.4mmrod | 30.7mmc/h | 23mmpin | -22ccvol | 405g | 8.5c/r | 4032

Wrx209937122 could be what they fitted. Presume these need hone/bore
I had 100mm fitted and needed machine work before it was done.
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Originally Posted by Shaks-STI
I had 100mm fitted and needed machine work before it was done.
Same as that . I think 3 thou of an inch is road spec clearance, mine is 4 thou and is rattly when cold
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Originally Posted by Baz82
Same as that . I think 3 thou of an inch is road spec clearance, mine is 4 thou and is rattly when cold
Mine is rattly when cold but once warmed up its fine.
Old 15 January 2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaks-STI
Mine is rattly when cold but once warmed up its fine.

Mines the same cold = diesel sounds , up to temp she is perfect but still noticeable noisier than a standard engine I have to say.
When on track thats the quietest I've heard it after a few hard laps
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You guys I take it all have remaps, and non standard other bits?
I think my issue is a forged piston engine with standard other bits and standard ECU. Mine is quiet once hot but by this point the car detects slap as knock and adjust ignition and fuel until its running like a dog!
Managed to get some info today and block was machined properly to accept these pistons so thats a bit better news so just need to find out how to sort the slap on cold running issue!!
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Originally Posted by turbo900
Notes:
SUBARU WRX 2.5L STI | 100.0mmbore | 79.0mmstroke | 130.4mmrod | 30.7mmc/h | 23mmpin | -22ccvol | 405g | 8.5c/r | 4032

Wrx209937122 could be what they fitted. Presume these need hone/bore
These pistons are 4032 material forged piston, ideal for your std type road based engine, if there noisy they have been fitted in a incorrectly sized bore, ie to big, these should be 0.002" clearence.
If they were 2618 material for high power applications they would require extra clearence, & would be noisy when cold.
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Originally Posted by turbo900
You guys I take it all have remaps, and non standard other bits?
I think my issue is a forged piston engine with standard other bits and standard ECU. Mine is quiet once hot but by this point the car detects slap as knock and adjust ignition and fuel until its running like a dog!
Managed to get some info today and block was machined properly to accept these pistons so thats a bit better news so just need to find out how to sort the slap on cold running issue!!

That should not be happening may be an issue with the knock sensor. You should really have the car mapped.
I'm running an Autronic ecu which has no knock control but is mapped to suit the engine
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