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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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Engine compresion problem or is it normal
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Have a closed deck block forged

Mahle pistons
Sti 8 conrods
V8 crank
Steel multi layer gaskets
V6 heads fully rebuilt skimmed etc

My engine builder has timed it today and when turning clockwise by hand with no spark plugs init it has some tight spots where you have to then apply more force to turn it....

Is this normal if not what seems to be the problem? Is it a sign of compression stroke .... And would i need thicker headgaskets?
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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You are probably feeling the cam lobes pushing against valve spring pressure. If the engine builder can't tell if it's normal or not then you'd better get a new engine builder. You can't feel compression stroke with plugs removed.

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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Even when we put the plugs in it was still getting toght spots when rotating
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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not being funny but surely the engine builder should be able to tell whats the problem, if hes unsure iam not certain id want his engine in my car !
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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A competent builder would not ask this question. Take it elsewhere.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RICHARD J
A competent builder would not ask this question. Take it elsewhere.
I am not a competant builder hence me bein here!
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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how it is worded it seems you are asking because the engine builder doesnt know.

why didnt you ask the engine builder and as above its the tension on the cams.

nice set up btw same as me lol
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Sounds like squirt jets & Mahle piston interference.
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I'd take note of what Motors S GT says as he is one of the best engine builders around.
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Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
Sounds like squirt jets & Mahle piston interference.
So to cure this would i need thicker gaskets say 1.6mm
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by stedee
how it is worded it seems you are asking because the engine builder doesnt know.

why didnt you ask the engine builder and as above its the tension on the cams.

nice set up btw same as me lol
So what does this mate x
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chloe123
So to cure this would i need thicker gaskets say 1.6mm
If you have under piston oil squirters the Mahle pistons need to be modified to clear these. Gasket thickness is dictated by what CR you are going to run & this should be carefully calculated before the engine is built.
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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Try taking the cam belt off, make sure the valves are all closed and turn the crank, if you have tight spots you have a problem, either the pistons are fouling the oil squirters (very likely), the crank is bent, a bearing isn't seated right or something else! whatever it is, it needs stripping and re-assembling by someone who is an 'engine builder'.
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