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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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Unhappy Car wont start after engine swap

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I had 2 Subau Impreza WRX Imports (Car A 380bhp) (Car B 310bhp)

Out of (Car A) i had the following items.

Closed deck block
Fly Wheel
550 Injectors
Fuel Rails
FPR
Fuel Lines
pulleys
Apexi ECU
Engine Wire Loom
Turbo

(Car B) had the following new items

Short Shift Gearbox
Rear Diff


So i swapped all the items from (Car A) to (Car B) and put all inlet manifold, alternator, power steering, FMIC ect onto (Car A's) engine..

I connected everything and checked twice, but when i turn the car over its not trying to start

I checked the plugs and getting a spark, also got fuel to the engine, and compression is fine.

Checked all the fuses and they are ok

and even tried easy start but not a peep.

Any idea's before i tow it to a garage to find the issue?
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Hi was looking through my manual for my apexi
And came across that if you have not got a seperate boost controller/sensor and it's switched on on the hand controller the car won't start
Hope it's some help
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Hi i have got the seperate boost controller connected to the apexi and its switched on in the settings.

the apexi was set up for the block, air filter turbo and boost controller and all these have come over onto my car.
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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Have you checked the cam and crank sensors?
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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Yea I tried the ones of my block and still the same issue
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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Hi mate, i got the cam and injector plug the wrong way round as they were close together took me a few goes before i got it then first time on the key.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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Checked all my plugs against the schematics for the car and it's showing as correct
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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earth leads on gearbox / heads ?
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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no spark
no fuel
no air

or failing that timing,
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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have spark
have fuel
have air...

plugs where soaked and fuel was coming out the exhaust so cleaned and heated the plugs but still nothing....

i was defeated so towed the car to the garage that built the engine. they think it is a fuel issue so will find out tomorrow.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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sounds like timing problem to me maybe one of the cam/crank sensor wires is knackered
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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tested the sensors from the block i took out of my car and had the same issue.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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check the wires though from your old loom and your new loom, see if you have a different impedance
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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I used the engine loom from the new engine and tested the old loom still no difference
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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Cam timing or camshfts fitted in the wrong position ie left swapped with right or inlet swapped with exhausts.

Mick
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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yeah as above but you havent described anything about the engines, they cant be exactly the same or you wouldnt have swapped, what are the differences ie cams
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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Difference in engine is the new one is forged mind was standard, both blocks are closed deck blocks and both from 93 reg imports
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Well the garage I took my car too said all 4 coil packs have gone and that I need a new set, even though both were running perfectly upto the engines coming out.

The coil packs are from a later Subaru and were modified as they have a 3rd earthing cable.

The other garage I use said its an earthing issue so have to fit an earthing kit and see if that works
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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well i went to get my car yesterday, the garage couldnt fix it.... after trawling through this site i found the fix and took me less than 5 mins to have my car running and driving home...

Winner!!!
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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so what was the prob?
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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the coils on the engine are from a newage subaru and are modified to fit the classic, but you also need to cut out the ignition module and connect the wires directly to each other.

the garage wanted £320 for 4 new coil packs... in the end paid them £30 for an hours labour... and fixed it myself.
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