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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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i have changed my front springs over but on doin so i had to disconnect the break hoes as its fitted to the strut on a bracket stupid idea! on completion i have noticed that i have no breaks if i pump them they are there for a second as soon as i stop my foot just goes straight to the floor iv tryed bleedin them just cracked the nut and fluid squerted out both sides but still the same now iam stuck
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Hi,

I changed the shocks yesterday on my year 2000 & had a similar issue.

Did you un-attach the brake hose from caliper ?
If so, there are sealing washers that you need to make sure are sealer properly or ideally replace.

I put all mine back together to find one was leaking so have to get some new ones tomorrow.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by richscoobylove84
i have changed my front springs over but on doin so i had to disconnect the break hoes as its fitted to the strut on a bracket stupid idea! on completion i have noticed that i have no breaks if i pump them they are there for a second as soon as i stop my foot just goes straight to the floor iv tryed bleedin them just cracked the nut and fluid squerted out both sides but still the same now iam stuck
Dont try driving the car again. Go on youtube and search how to bleed brakes. Make sure you have plenty of Dot 4 brake fluid and bleed both front calipers.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Hi,

I changed the shocks yesterday on my year 2000 & had a similar issue.

Did you un-attach the brake hose from caliper ?
If so, there are sealing washers that you need to make sure are sealer properly or ideally replace.

I put all mine back together to find one was leaking so have to get some new ones tomorrow.
yes i did it was either that or cut the bracket off didnt really want to do that yes the washers are fine theres no leaks iv just had a brain wave iv only bleed the front maybe il have to bleed all 4 ?
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Dont try driving the car again. Go on youtube and search how to bleed brakes. Make sure you have plenty of Dot 4 brake fluid and bleed both front calipers.
ok thanks mate i have bleed both front am thinking i might have to do all 4 ?
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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yes i did it was either that or cut the bracket off didnt really want to do that yes the washers are fine theres no leaks iv just had a brain wave iv only bleed the front maybe il have to bleed all 4 ?
No, dont touch the rear ones. Re bleed both front calipers. How are you bleeding the brakes ? with an assistant or one man method ?
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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on my own which is my problem my mates on his way now so he can do the pedel for me cause think when iam lettin the pedel up with the screw undone its just sucking air back in ?
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:33 PM
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on my own which is my problem my mates on his way now so he can do the pedel for me cause think when iam lettin the pedel up with the screw undone its just sucking air back in ?
You are doing exactly that. Wait for your mate to come. You will need to pass quite a bit of fluid through each caliper, make sure you have enough to top it up. Remember never release the brake pedal from the floor unless you have nipped the bleeder up.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by madmarx
You are doing exactly that. Wait for your mate to come. You will need to pass quite a bit of fluid through each caliper, make sure you have enough to top it up. Remember never release the brake pedal from the floor unless you have nipped the bleeder up.
thanks alot mate will do
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Buy yourself one these one day

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/brake-blee...item2c5f3d829a
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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its still not working iv tryed both sides now on there own and 1 by 1 at least 4 times
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To bleed them correctly you would need a length of clear tubing a glass or plastic container and the spanner. Fill the glass up with a couple of inches of brake fluid and put the end of the tube in it. Dont let it come out above the fluid in the glass. With the other end on the bleed nipple, have an assistant press the brake pedal slowly to floor several times, finishing with the pedal on the floor. You lock off the bleeder with the pedal on the floor.
Or do 1 pump at a time and lock the bleeder briefly to let him release the pedal.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by madmarx
To bleed them correctly you would need a length of clear tubing a glass or plastic container and the spanner. Fill the glass up with a couple of inches of brake fluid and put the end of the tube in it. Dont let it come out above the fluid in the glass. With the other end on the bleed nipple, have an assistant press the brake pedal slowly to floor several times, finishing with the pedal on the floor. You lock off the bleeder with the pedal on the floor.
Or do 1 pump at a time and lock the bleeder briefly to let him release the pedal.
Listen to this man
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by madmarx
To bleed them correctly you would need a length of clear tubing a glass or plastic container and the spanner. Fill the glass up with a couple of inches of brake fluid and put the end of the tube in it. Dont let it come out above the fluid in the glass. With the other end on the bleed nipple, have an assistant press the brake pedal slowly to floor several times, finishing with the pedal on the floor. You lock off the bleeder with the pedal on the floor.
Or do 1 pump at a time and lock the bleeder briefly to let him release the pedal.
yep thats what i was doing and i have found my problem i have a split in my hoes
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by madmarx
No, dont touch the rear ones. Re bleed both front calipers. How are you bleeding the brakes ? with an assistant or one man method ?
Actually you should bleed alternate wheels. ie front n's then rear os. Then front os then rear ns.
This is because you have 2 brake circuits being opposite wheels, one front one rear for safety reasons.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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[quote=chopperman;10459135]Actually you should bleed alternate wheels. ie front n's then rear os. Then front os then rear ns.
This is because you have 2 brake circuits being opposite wheels, one front one rear for safety reasons.

As long as the resevoir didnt empty, the air would only be in the front strut pipe, so no rear brake lines needed to be touched.

For a total brake bleed or fluid change then obviously you would bleed all circuits, one circuit at a time.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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[quote=madmarx;10459201]
Originally Posted by chopperman
Actually you should bleed alternate wheels. ie front n's then rear os. Then front os then rear ns.
This is because you have 2 brake circuits being opposite wheels, one front one rear for safety reasons.

As long as the resevoir didnt empty, the air would only be in the front strut pipe, so no rear brake lines needed to be touched.

For a total brake bleed or fluid change then obviously you would bleed all circuits, one circuit at a time.
yeah resevoir was bone dry left it for 2nyt new hoes been put on
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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A little tip for removing struts regarding where the hose passes through the little bracket on the strut.
Unclip the hose retainer and wiggle the hose loose.
Cut a slot in the side of the bracket slightly wider than the rubber hose and slide the brake hose out.
The retaining clip holds the hose perfectly when refitted, even with the slot cut in the bracket.
No need to disconnect the brakes.
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mike h
A little tip for removing struts regarding where the hose passes through the little bracket on the strut.
Unclip the hose retainer and wiggle the hose loose.
Cut a slot in the side of the bracket slightly wider than the rubber hose and slide the brake hose out.
The retaining clip holds the hose perfectly when refitted, even with the slot cut in the bracket.
No need to disconnect the brakes.
wish id done that mate that was sort of my intention in the 1st place but looked alot easyer to just undo the hose and reconnect it oh how wrong i was lol
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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[quote=richscoobylove84;
yeah resevoir was bone dry left it for 2nyt new hoes been put on[/quote]

If resevoir ran dry then you may as well change the complete brake fluid. You should ask someone who knows how to do this for you.
If you have to disconnect a brake line in the future either use a hose clamp or for a steel or copper pipe get a piece of rubber tube with a screw in one end to put over the end of the pipe to stop fluid leaking away. oh and dont touch the brake pedal till you have re attached the pipe.
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