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Old 28 January 2012, 12:44 PM
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I have a bugeye that's completely standard bar a decat centre section, backbox (both 3").

I'm now adding:

Walbro uprated pump
3 port boost solenoid
WR1 intercooler
500cc Denso injectors

With my standard TD04 what can I expect from a good map?

What would be the most logical next step turbo-wise for an upgrade? VF28 or something else? What would that then give?

Also - as it's a newage, if I want 2 maps ...... would I/mapper need to wire up some kind of map selection switch? Ideally I want a 95/97RON MAP and a 99RON map.

Thanks guys
Old 28 January 2012, 01:14 PM
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Hi mate I have a wrx bugeye with td04 and after a remap , fuel pump, sports cat it is about 270 bhp. I believe the most you will achieve from that little td04 is 280 bhp approx. A good upgrade is a vf34/35 with pink injectors and bigger topmount and 3 port . Should see 320-350 bhp, bearing in mind the standard internals and box.
Old 28 January 2012, 01:18 PM
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Your stock turbo will be holding your car back mate will all them mods so you will definately need a bigger turbo to make use of the bigger injectors.

In all honesty mate there is no use haveing unleaded and super unleaded maps because in the big scheme of things this is what I found. When using 95/97 ron it was a few pence cheaper but I was pushing the car more to get it up to speed so it cost the same as 99 ron. Most people have switchable maps when they are using meth.

Get lauch control added.
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Originally Posted by fingerscooby
Hi mate I have a wrx bugeye with td04 and after a remap , fuel pump, sports cat it is about 270 bhp. I believe the most you will achieve from that little td04 is 280 bhp approx. A good upgrade is a vf34/35 with pink injectors and bigger topmount and 3 port . Should see 320-350 bhp, bearing in mind the standard internals and box.
Look's like I'm on the lookout for a VF34/35 then
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vf34/35 turbo
sti top mount aswell as the sti scoop and under tray
550 injectors
walbro
decat exhaust including up-pipe should see you 320bhp with simlar torque once remapped

your standard td04 will be maxed around 280bhp at the most

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Old 28 January 2012, 01:41 PM
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Bugeye can't have two true maps, there's not enough room on the ECU.....

TD04 maxes out at a shade over 270. Spend a couple of hundred on a TD05 or similar and up that to 330 ish

Shaun

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No point updating the injectors and IC unless you upgrade your turbo too. As above, 280 is about max on a TD04 with or without injectors and IC.
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Originally Posted by NOSSY_89
Your stock turbo will be holding your car back mate will all them mods so you will definately need a bigger turbo to make use of the bigger injectors.

In all honesty mate there is no use haveing unleaded and super unleaded maps because in the big scheme of things this is what I found. When using 95/97 ron it was a few pence cheaper but I was pushing the car more to get it up to speed so it cost the same as 99 ron. Most people have switchable maps when they are using meth.

Get lauch control added.
Cheers Nossy! Had a feeling that was the case but I can't afford going to a 6 speed box so want to err on the side of caution as I know the 5 speed boxes aren't exactly strong

What will launch control help do?
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Originally Posted by powerwrx
vf34/35 turbo
sti top mount
550 injectors
walbro
decat exhaust including up-pipe should see you 320bhp with simlar torque once remapped

yor standard td04 will be maxed around 280bhp at the most
I've got myself some Denso 500 injectors from here - is that not enough then?
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Bugeye can't have two true maps, there's not enough room on the ECU.....

TD04 maxes out at a shade over 270. Spend a couple of hundred on a TD05 or similar and up that to 230 ish

Shaun
It can have two boost maps through
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Bugeye can't have two true maps, there's not enough room on the ECU.....

TD04 maxes out at a shade over 270. Spend a couple of hundred on a TD05 or similar and up that to 230 ish

Shaun
thanks Shaun - I have seen your posts and know you're somewhat of an expert on Bugeyes

You mean 330ish not 230ish in your post above?

If you had to/ or if you have - should I go TD05 or VF? I have also seen a TD04 18G on here too which I was looking at.

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Not really, the old trick (EcuTeK) with the full throttle and rear heater de-mist just restricts the boost...

500 injectors will flow enough

Shaun
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TBH the VF35, VF35 and TD05 16G turbo's are much the same in terms of performance, the TD05 is very old school and spools a little slower but is a tough critter and you can even run it without a dump valve LOL

The 18G is a step up from the above, the one for 230 quid on here is a bargain, it just needs to be de-tuned slightly so as not to wreck the gearbox but it has a bit more lag... Personally I'dlook out for a VF34/35 or TG05 16G

Shaun
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Originally Posted by SinghSuperStud
Cheers Nossy! Had a feeling that was the case but I can't afford going to a 6 speed box so want to err on the side of caution as I know the 5 speed boxes aren't exactly strong

What will launch control help do?
Your clutch will give up before the gearbox lol.

The car builds boost and doesn't let you over rev on the line. The car launches with boost. Its amazing and I think I have explained it correctly but if I haven't I'm sure someone will be on here to correct me.
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
TBH the VF35, VF35 and TD05 16G turbo's are much the same in terms of performance, the TD05 is very old school and spools a little slower but is a tough critter and you can even run it without a dump valve LOL

The 18G is a step up from the above, the one for 230 quid on here is a bargain, it just needs to be de-tuned slightly so as not to wreck the gearbox but it has a bit more lag... Personally I'dlook out for a VF34/35 or TG05 16G

Shaun
Cheers Shaun - will keep an eye out for the VF34/35 but I know they're as rare as rocking horse poop! I might end up trying to get the 18G if all else fails and it's stil here.

thanks
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Originally Posted by NOSSY_89
Your clutch will give up before the gearbox lol.

The car builds boost and doesn't let you over rev on the line. The car launches with boost. Its amazing and I think I have explained it correctly but if I haven't I'm sure someone will be on here to correct me.


I did a quick read and I think your description is a fair one.

I'll have to check and see what my options are vs. cost
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Originally Posted by SinghSuperStud


I did a quick read and I think your description is a fair one.

I'll have to check and see what my options are vs. cost
Wait a minute your local well kind of lol.

You will have to get a remap with the mods and it would get programmed in at the time of the remap. On the newage cars without flybywires as far as I know ECUTek doesn't support lauch control but OS does and is cheaper.
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On JDM bugeye ECU you can have full two maps,there is enough room for two maps.Last time when we are want something similar(one simple remap and Group N map with ALS and LC),our mapper this confirm its possible on JDM WRX ECU

Second thing i would go like TDO5-16G or VF34,VF35 on bugeye,TD05-18G is slightly laggier as above mentioned turbos.Your injectors will flow enough for these turbos.

If you want something like two fuel maps,you must have aftermarket ECU or JDM ECU which can utilize two fuel maps

Jura
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Originally Posted by NOSSY_89
Wait a minute your local well kind of lol.

You will have to get a remap with the mods and it would get programmed in at the time of the remap. On the newage cars without flybywires as far as I know ECUTek doesn't support lauch control but OS does and is cheaper.
Yep - I'm just by J9 Ikea

I will book in a remap - it's on my list! Have had OS stuff before so will definitely go down that route.
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Get yourself down to some of the WMI meets.
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Don't forget the WRX has an up-pipe pre cat, melt that and it's goodbye turbo so you might wish to replace with a de-cat item

Shaun
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You can run 2x switchable boost, timing,fuel and injector maps on a edm bug wrx with open source
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https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...oup-n-rom.html

forgot about that

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Don't forget the WRX has an up-pipe pre cat, melt that and it's goodbye turbo so you might wish to replace with a de-cat item

Shaun
I'll be decatting the up pipe too so that should get rid of this
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