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Old 28 December 2011, 06:48 PM
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Looking at achieving 600+ bhp - got the heads etc to withstand it - but need to get another block built.
What should I be looking for - 2.1 or 2.3 etc etc
Old 28 December 2011, 06:57 PM
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2.2CDB block with a 2.5 crank ideally, but the 2.0CDB with a stroker will suffice

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Old 28 December 2011, 07:20 PM
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2.3 cdb for the big power boys
Old 28 December 2011, 07:50 PM
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Achieving over 600bhp isn't as easy as you would think so make sure you chose your mods etc wisely.
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I thought the 22B was the ultimate route for power and reliability ie 600+
Old 28 December 2011, 09:15 PM
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Is your car a daily driver or weekend toy?

600bhp+ is going some, and as you probably know will need the rest to support it. I have a 2.1 Time attack engine out there doing over 600bhp but going back to what I said that has race fuel system, turbo, ecu, fuel mix, and so on.

You say you have heads, which ones and current spec? Probably 2.35 would be better way, built plenty of these and building 2.1 and 2.35 weekly.

Feel free to contact me

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Old 28 December 2011, 09:47 PM
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Depends what you want to use it for and ultimately what your budget is ?
Feel free to contact us with the answers to your questions and I'll pop a quote together for you.

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Old 28 December 2011, 09:55 PM
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Its just a weekend to my car is running 424hp470lb but I want something that will keep up with a bike :-)
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Originally Posted by gooner 1
Its just a weekend to my car is running 424hp470lb but I want something that will keep up with a bike :-)

Trouble is the higher you shoot for power the less drivable it becomes ie the super bike would roast a 600bhp scoob through bends given it has power as soon as he pulls the throttle where as it takes a little spool time between on/off throttle with the car.

I'd say you need to adjust/practise your driving if your struggling with most bikes with 427bhp on a SC series billet turbo mate or get the car setup on the handling side better imho.

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Originally Posted by prodriverules
Trouble is the higher you shoot for power the less drivable it becomes ie the super bike would roast a 600bhp scoob through bends given it has power as soon as he pulls the throttle where as it takes a little spool time between on/off throttle with the car.

I'd say you need to adjust/practise your driving if your struggling with most bikes with 427bhp on a SC series billet turbo mate or get the car setup on the handling side better imho.
:-) I had a play the other day with a bike and off the lights I did him 1st 2nd and as I went to go in 3d he was gone its not in the bends at all I left it when we come out I can't keep up don't get me wrong the car go's well I just want more
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I agree with prodriverules, just big power is not the end of it. The handling needs to be right and then the power needs to be a balance between drivability and outright grunt. I am currently running at 440 bhp on the clinics rollers, i have worked on the suspension and feel I have a good setup. If I get the engine rebuilt I want strength but will not be looking at going much above 500 bhp to keep the drivability
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Hang on a moment didn't you have a purple and green big bhp build for sale recently

It would take one hell of a rider to lose a 400+bhp classic in the bends and i'm talking rossi.

Thats if the bloke in the scoob can drive, and on the straights bike as you say has a major advantage, power to weight ratio's on modern 1000cc bikes is immence.

You shouldn't be racing bikes with a car if they get it wrong it dont bare thinking about.

Get a bike and tune that far cheaper than a 600bhp scoob.

I had a go on a chipped zx12r that was good for 210mph and cost £4k and was mental lifting the front wheel at 150mph You WILL need 10 times that for 600bhp.
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
the super bike would roast a 600bhp scoob through bends
no they dont.
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