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Old 28 August 2011, 01:08 PM
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2002 sti bugeye, one of my headlights lens wasnt perfect so bought a replacement... Only problem is they are slightly diferent...

In the First pic is the orig. one.. 1,2,3 and 4 are the connectors.

In the second one conector 3 isnt there and 5 (pink cable) is an extra... goes to a small bulb, but cant be seen from the front, so no idea what this does...

Any ideas, other thing i have noticed is the new one says HID on the back whereas my orig. one doesnt.. am i right in saying the std sti's arnt hid, where as the new one is.

Lastly if i plug this in and its not compatable am i in danger of doing damage to loome, or would it just be a case of wouldnt work..

Help please!!!




Old 28 August 2011, 01:12 PM
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The second is a JDM HID light and needs a ballast. The 2 lights you have are different and should not be fitted on the same car
Old 28 August 2011, 01:12 PM
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You may not have had HIDs originally. Do your originals have the ballasts that are associated with HIDs? (A small box which the wiring goes through)



The filter arrived yesterday, many thanks mate.
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Oh, and when you say the lens was not perfect, do you mean the plastic cover going milky? JonMc knows of a plastic polish that would do the job, please remind me Jon?
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Originally Posted by JonMc
The second is a JDM HID light and needs a ballast. The 2 lights you have are different and should not be fitted on the same car
Bugger!

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You may not have had HIDs originally. Do your originals have the ballasts that are associated with HIDs? (A small box which the wiring goes through)

No - Double Bugger!!


The filter arrived yesterday, many thanks mate.
Cheers mate, good to know..

sigh... best put the car back together then...

Anybody want a pass. side h light? lol
(Whats it worth btw)
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Greygate's is the stuff you are thinking of...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moulded-Th...d#ht_732wt_905

Used to polish the visors on pilot's helmets
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Originally Posted by madmerlin
Bugger!



Cheers mate, good to know..

sigh... best put the car back together then...

Anybody want a pass. side h light? lol
(Whats it worth btw)
Without the ballast £100-150 (£500+ new IIRC)

Here's another, could be a UK one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-imp...#ht_1168wt_905
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Thats the stuff! Cheers Jon.
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Originally Posted by JonMc
Without the ballast £100-150 (£500+ new IIRC)

Here's another, could be a UK one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-imp...#ht_1168wt_905

Whooooo!!!!! Ill take £99 delivered if anybody wants it?




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Greygate's is the stuff you are thinking of...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moulded-Th...d#ht_732wt_905

Used to polish the visors on pilot's helmets
This wont help tbh m8, cheers anyway... the leas has got a small what can only be described as a "Burn Mark" in it, looks just like a *** burn... odd i know...
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Originally Posted by madmerlin
Whooooo!!!!! Ill take £99 delivered if anybody wants it?






This wont help tbh m8, cheers anyway... the leas has got a small what can only be described as a "Burn Mark" in it, looks just like a *** burn... odd i know...
Here is an idea which Jon could help advise about. If it is the plastic cover which you describe as the lens, what about the old headlamp in the oven, another cheap bug headlight in the oven, then swap the fronts over.

Thats only if the burn mark is on the outer lens
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best pic i can get of it.


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As above then, try and transplant the cover off another headlamp, if they are the same.
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Originally Posted by Myles
Here is an idea which Jon could help advise about. If it is the plastic cover which you describe as the lens, what about the old headlamp in the oven, another cheap bug headlight in the oven, then swap the fronts over.

Thats only if the burn mark is on the outer lens
r they easy to strip then?
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It is an oven job when the guys on here de-tango bugeye headlights. Just wait on the definitive advice from JonMc or someone equally as intelligent.
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Originally Posted by Myles
It is an oven job when the guys on here de-tango bugeye headlights. Just wait on the definitive advice from JonMc or someone equally as intelligent.
hum, not to sure i would want to do it myself, prob best to drop this one and look around for a std sti one...

i feel a post coming on in the for sale section lol
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I've not done it myself, but I understand 10 minutes at 200 degrees will soften the adhesive enough to allow the lens to be removed - oven gloves are a must though
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Originally Posted by JonMc
I've not done it myself, but I understand 10 minutes at 200 degrees will soften the adhesive enough to allow the lens to be removed - oven gloves are a must though

oww Now comon - thats not fair!!! that sounds too easy, so a numptie like me thinks its a doddle, tries it and ends up driving round with a toasted headlight for the next week.... oh decisions decisions... do i or dont i
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First, ascertain that the front cover is the same on a bug normal headlight as it is on yours. Ask a friend in a bug to pop round to inspect, or just walk up to a random car to inspect(first option better on so so many different levels!). If it is, buy one on ebay, they should be about £20. Ensure the seller tells you the front is spotless, no point on scrimping if you are going to spot all the stone marks a week later. Then do the job, but start with the ebay cheapie, then if you bugger it up youve only lost the price of an ebay cheapie.

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Originally Posted by madmerlin
oww Now comon - thats not fair!!! that sounds too easy, so a numptie like me thinks its a doddle, tries it and ends up driving round with a toasted headlight for the next week.... oh decisions decisions... do i or dont i
All you are doing is softening the adhesive - put it in for a couple of minutes and if it's not soft enough repeat until it is, toasted headlight avoided
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Originally Posted by Myles
First, ascertain that the front cover is the same on a bug normal headlight as it is on yours. Ask a friend in a bug to pop round to inspect, or just walk up to a random car to inspect(first option better on so so many different levels!). If it is, buy one on ebay, they should be about £20. Ensure the seller tells you the front is spotless, no point on scrimping if you are going to spot all the stone marks a week later. Then do the job, but start with the ebay cheapie, then if you bugger it up youve only lost the price of an ebay cheapie.

oh thinking of it ive got a set of std hl of my old wrx at my works, can take a look at these and see if they r the same.. if so will give it a go.. This never even crossed my mind to try this - Doh!
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when i bought my bugeye the previous owner stripped the lights and painted the inside matt black, he done a crap job so i bought another set of lights and popped them in the oven and split them down and repainted,

anyway i have a spare set of headlights here if you want them and you can give it a go splitting them down, its dead easy and you can have them for FREE, i can post them down for you mate
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Originally Posted by antdye2008
when i bought my bugeye the previous owner stripped the lights and painted the inside matt black, he done a crap job so i bought another set of lights and popped them in the oven and split them down and repainted,

anyway i have a spare set of headlights here if you want them and you can give it a go splitting them down, its dead easy and you can have them for FREE, i can post them down for you mate
You are a gent. m8, what can i say... what a top bloke..

can i let u know tomorrow if you dont mind, will pick up my old wrx ones in the morning from work, cant remember if they r any good..

cheers again chap
Old 28 August 2011, 09:17 PM
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yeah no probs mate, there just sat here doing nothing so they are yours if you want them, even if you just use them as practice lights to split down.
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