TIZERBOY

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Hi guys and girls,, i've got a JDM STI bugeye that i'd like to get maped, the mods on hear is a cat back exhaust with a green panel filter,,would like to fit a sports cat down pipe then a remap..

just wondered what power i'd get??and what type of map i could get??and price??

Jolly Green Monster

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the JDM sti bugeye has a single scroll turbo, I always thought it should be the vf30 but saw one with a vf35 the other week (possibly changed or possibly no) anyway.

You should be looking at about 330 to 340bhp and 325~335lb torque ideally

Simon

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

STI bugeye top end on the turbo is usually circa 330bhp all going well. Between 300-330 is a realistic goal with a sports cat downpipe, however some cars are higher than others. It's all about the overall power band though as they are fairly tame as a standard map, so it is very easy to widen the power band thus making it a much faster car prior to even increasing the power.

I can do a map £225 if you come to me, or can travel to you and will do a RR before and after with my performance datalogger which is pretty accurate.

thanks,

Graham

A.D.Edmundson

225???? WTF

JDM_Stig

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Looks like it
http://www.enginemapper.co.uk/html/s...e-mapping.html

TIZERBOY

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Thanks for replys guys much appreciated i've been told i will need an a up-rated fuel pump is this right

A.D.Edmundson

Yes you will need a fuel pump. i still cant believe remaps for 225 .....

I might aswell give up.....

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

Yes 225! I hook up my tin can and string and then wind in the timing with a crank handle.

A.D.Edmundson

sounds like it....

TIZERBOY

iTrader: (1)

Yes good price but as i dont know sod all about mapping which one??
idealy would like one who'd fit sports cat and fuel pump and map it all in one lol....

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

Lol easy! Im not here to undermine people. I enjoy mapping and it is more of a sideline on top of the dyno work I do for others and engineering activities. To give you an idea of the caliber of people I work for, I was up at M-Sport two weeks ago working with the Engine Engineers there.

Graham

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

Happy to do all of the above, but if i'm too cheap then you know who to go to (joke!)

juggers

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M sport........as in M sport who make the Ford rally car? Can you map JDM Twiscroll cars and what software do you us ecutek or open source?

Immy

greatgonzo

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must be open source
Spend your money wisley

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

Juggers, they sure are. Fiesta WRC, very sexy I have to say, though has nothing in terms of technology compared to the Focus. Anyway we are diverting from the Ops original post so I'll take this to PM instead..! And yes opensource indeed.

Graham

maydew

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jgm mapped via ecutek the way to go mate !

TIZERBOY

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Whats the difference between an open source and ecutec??

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...n-mapping.html

KAS35RSTI

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Jollygreenmonster or Racedynamix are commonly used on here & i would not hesitate recommending either of them.

jura11

iTrader: (7)

Licence and tools...With EcuTek you will get licence and with OS you are don't get.

For OS you will pay £225(as above offering EE)and for EcuTek £550 excluding VAT.

Opens source is way ahead EcuTek,few years is available per gear boost,ALS,LC,Speed Density and EcuTek in last month have this features,but on some newer models(32bit ECU)




Jura

TIZERBOY

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Looks like its OS for me mate

juggers

iTrader: (1)

From what I have read and seen you can do everything via Open source which doesn't leave much room for Ecutek. Think I'll be tryig engine mapper by the looks of things I got a feeling that he's going to be on everyone Christmas wish list.

Rob Day

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Each to their own with OS Vs EcuTek. I can understand why peopke would opt for one over the other, especially if you have used the same mapper with no issues for many years.

Ive used open source, and Andrew Carr in my opinion doesnt get enough credit. His after service and pre-mapping advice is superb. Im visiting hm next week, and as always I phoned him for some pre-map advice, and i have taken on board what he has said and bought everything required...

Rob

PS - "Lateral Performance" for Fuel Pumps.....

Jolly Green Monster

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Just because ecutek hasnt had the gimmics (launch control etc) available for as long doesnt make it less advanced.
To my knowldge open source still has no reflash failure recovery software?
The speed density map you mention I believe was s group n map which has been copied.
Does open source have features for the newer drive by wire cars yet?

Amazig how people will trust their engine to someone unknown just because they are cheap as chips

Simon

TIZERBOY

iTrader: (1)

Yes Rob was going to use Mark at Lateral for the fuel pump,got a clutch and flywheel from him Top man

Rob Day

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Your right Simon, I havent a clue who Graham is although if he is any good im sure he will get himself well established and well known, but for someone new to the game (although he might be very clued up with mapping) I would not leave my car in the hands of just anyone even of it was for free mapping!!! Andrew Carr has been good for me, he is local, knowledgable, and has his own workshop where he doesnt mind getting hs hands dirty which I think is important, and lastly I find his prices reasonable which help

Each to their own, Im sure I could map OP car if they wish, I mean ive got a Tactrx cable and laptop, buy im sure it would go bang with an incorrect entry.... Mapping is an art, leave it to those that know what they are doing in my opinion

Regards,
Rob

jura11

iTrader: (7)

Hi Simon

this depends on people needs and obviously on money how much you will pay for remap,i'm using Slowboy Racing and i trust him,he building my car and at this time(few months ago) has been just one which help me with remap etc.

Now about the advanced EcuTek or OS,this again depends on people what want...
Now speed density,yes this is available via Group N map(or is based on Group N),which has been copied and is available publicly for anyone,and this features is available for newer models with 32bit ECU...

Yes,sometimes is best stick with people which you trust,but without trying we are leaving still just with standard/not tuned engine.

P.S.:
Simon you have good reputation as mapper from many people



Jura

Cannon Fodder

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Blinking flip, even the OS mappers are now undercutting each other - if they carry on at this rate they'll be paying people to map their cars.

Bob Rawle has mapped 3 Impreza's for me - I trust him and his advice without question. I do not really care if an OS map is £225 I pay for Bob's expertise and considerable experience after all he's been doing it since god was a boy (sorry Bob if you read this).

I could start carrying out OS mapping after all I already have most of the necessary equipment - a laptop and a OBDII lead I just need to buy the necessary sensors and detcans and I am away.

OS maps for £50 anyone, just sign my disclaimer first...

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport

I definately won't tell you that EcuTek is any worse or better than open source. I was offered the software, but thought the end customer price and result was better with Opensource.

Price is a key customer concern today and will be tomorrow. My price is fair, others charge more which I find greedy or ridiculous especially if you haven't invested in a 100k dyno to justify the cost. M-Sport have spent 1.5million on their transient dyno, they charge their customers appropriately.

Incidentally 225 is my labour, factor in a couple of hours on the dyno at £50/hr and you have the cost that other mappers charge minus the use of a dyno.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

That's a bit harsh ... enginemapper is new here & doesn't deserve that reputations build over time so perhaps he's just attempting to get some trade first

TX.