si-thee

Might be a silly question but where is the best place to buy Meths from?

Cheers

f4la k

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I get mine from jennychem. Quality service and always quick delivery...

si-thee

I'm asking this because I'm thinking about having the second map done on car with 10% Meths but not sure if it is readily available ? And does it damage engine running with Meths ? Cheers

rob84

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Bonnymans chemical company for mine, easy enough to get hold of. not as far as i'm aware it doesnt damage the engine.

si-thee

is there a type/grade i should buy? looked at one and it says virgin meths??? (who sticks there d@%k in meths?) another 99.9% then one saying 99.5%??
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trevsjwood

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I think there is quite a hike in price for the extra purity and for 10% inclusion I doubt you would notice the difference. Jennychem have a very good product and at a competitive price.

bigsinky

your problem is the mixing. best value a 50 gallon drum with a dispenser. 45L of SUL at the garage 5L of methanol when you're back at your garage per tank. once the meth is in switch the map.

trevsjwood

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I would consider running it all the time, it would worry me at high boost and revs, is the mix exactly what it was mapped for, any leaning might lead to det.
I could understand a second map for 20% but 10% is easily incorperated into daily use.

Ciaran

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I have Jerry can's I keep in the boot that hold 5 litres each. I just add the 5 litres of Methanol in the forecourt and top up with 50 litres of V-power

bigsinky

i am not sure of the legality of using methanol on a garage forecourt. if you can then happy days. 5L container would be idea.

Ciaran

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Don't tell them what it is then. Last time i filled up the women asked what it was I put in first and I told her methanol, she asked why, I just replied because it's cheaper and she replied why put petrol in? I just kind of nodded and payed and left.

I do tend to get pretty funny looks as people wonder why you are filling your car up using a Gerry can in a petrol station if only they understood

TimH

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To be pedantic, that's 9% not 10%.

For 50 litres of fuel, then 10% of that is 5l...so the correct mix, as was said earlier, is 5l meth topped up with 45l VPower

Jennychem should do a deal, if you push them, to get meth at about 60p a litre

si-thee

whats better 10% or 15% mix?

Ciaran

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You know what your 100% correct Im such an idiot I appologise and have edited my earlier retarded post

TimH

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But, then...will 9% vs 10% actually matter

TimH

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As I understand it, the more meth, the more ignition advance that can be added. E85 is 85% ethanol (so not methanol, but similar effect) and that gets good results.

Methanol is very agressive, so can perish rubber fuel lines etc. I spilt some on the kitchen floor - it was the best clean it had had in ages .

That said, 20% is often used, but 10% is really easy to mix at the forecourt, as has been discussed. 10% gave me an extra 30bhp, and 20% would probably have given another 20

It's a trade off: convenience; power; risk to components designed for petrol rather than methanol.

bigsinky

not that you would, but 5ml injested orally will see all your organs shut down and you deader than a dead thing in about 48 hours. having said that we lash it into petrol tanks and plastic containers all the time without much precaution.


yes those pumps and fuel lines will deteriorate faster with methanol.

Ciaran

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Thats why mine are all PTFE lined

Methanol is pretty toxic I just try not to drink to much at once. Also if you spill it and it catches fire it burns with no flame. The only way you can see it is the heat haze.

si-thee

i will try to avoid drinking it then ha ha

trevsjwood

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10% meth gives marginally better results than 20% E85, the latter is safer to use but availability may be an issue. I always use gloves and a well ventelated area when I'm measuring the meth out. 10% inclusion is generally regarded as a safe amount and in 3years of use I've never had any issues and certainly never a question on the garage forcourt.
Trev

just123

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The last step in its production is to add small amount of petrol to make it unfit for human consumption

rob84

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Just ordered a 205 ltr drum from bonnymans, It worked out at approx 61p a ltr