New member,new car,not good start!
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New member,new car,not good start!
Hi
not a good start to my subaru ownership. The car is a 2000 on a w wrx uk within 7 days of ownership the bottom end is knocking when revved.
Question... cheapest and most effective way to get car back on the road
1 buy second hand engine, but iv'e been told engine has to be same year same code and not an import or it wont start and run.
2 have it rebuilt.... who would do it and would i have to sell a kidney on ebay to fund it?
3 just have someone replace the crank if thats possible?
appreciate any help or suggestions on the above or any recomendations if i need to go down new engine route
thanks
tommy
not a good start to my subaru ownership. The car is a 2000 on a w wrx uk within 7 days of ownership the bottom end is knocking when revved.
Question... cheapest and most effective way to get car back on the road
1 buy second hand engine, but iv'e been told engine has to be same year same code and not an import or it wont start and run.
2 have it rebuilt.... who would do it and would i have to sell a kidney on ebay to fund it?
3 just have someone replace the crank if thats possible?
appreciate any help or suggestions on the above or any recomendations if i need to go down new engine route
thanks
tommy
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Welcome, sorry to hear your experience has started like this.
The first thing to mention is probably the option you haven't considered. If the car's been purchased from a dealer (or similar), have you considered the option of rejecting it?
If that isn't an option, for whatever reason, then, to take your post in numerical order:
1. You've been told correctly. The only engines that will drop straight in and fire up straight away are from 1999 or 2000 model year Impreza Turbo 2000's (UK spec cars are called that, not "WRX"). Anything else will require further rebuilding work/expense - whether in terms of hardware under the bonnet, remapping the ECU, or both.
2. As far as rebuilds are concerned a lot depends on where you are. If you can get it to API Engines in Warwickshire, a top quality job will be done at a realistically good price. There are plenty of other good regional specialists, so searching around the board - and your regional forum would be well worthwhile to see both who's good and who's best avoided. Ideal Engines/SMR Engines, for one, you should avoid like the plague.
3. You can't simply "replace the crank" under these circumstances. If a bearing has failed, other parts - not least the shells, possibly oil pump, cooler, - will need replacing, and the engine will require careful examination to at least attempt to establish the process of failure in order to ensure that the rebuilt engine is going to run properly and last.
The first thing to mention is probably the option you haven't considered. If the car's been purchased from a dealer (or similar), have you considered the option of rejecting it?
If that isn't an option, for whatever reason, then, to take your post in numerical order:
1. You've been told correctly. The only engines that will drop straight in and fire up straight away are from 1999 or 2000 model year Impreza Turbo 2000's (UK spec cars are called that, not "WRX"). Anything else will require further rebuilding work/expense - whether in terms of hardware under the bonnet, remapping the ECU, or both.
2. As far as rebuilds are concerned a lot depends on where you are. If you can get it to API Engines in Warwickshire, a top quality job will be done at a realistically good price. There are plenty of other good regional specialists, so searching around the board - and your regional forum would be well worthwhile to see both who's good and who's best avoided. Ideal Engines/SMR Engines, for one, you should avoid like the plague.
3. You can't simply "replace the crank" under these circumstances. If a bearing has failed, other parts - not least the shells, possibly oil pump, cooler, - will need replacing, and the engine will require careful examination to at least attempt to establish the process of failure in order to ensure that the rebuilt engine is going to run properly and last.
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My thoughts are -
buy second hand engine? – I’ve never been a fan of this solution because usually when buying an engine, unless its in a car there is no way of knowing for definite the history of it, so you might save a few hundred quid as opposed to repairing what you got, only to find yourself with another dead engine in a few weeks.
have it rebuilt? – get prices of reputable companies only, I’m new here myself but I’m sure there will be lots of into and reviews.
Basically what I’m saying is you asked ‘cheapest and most effective way’ of getting your car back on the road, but just consider effective, as they say ‘buy cheap buy twice’
buy second hand engine? – I’ve never been a fan of this solution because usually when buying an engine, unless its in a car there is no way of knowing for definite the history of it, so you might save a few hundred quid as opposed to repairing what you got, only to find yourself with another dead engine in a few weeks.
have it rebuilt? – get prices of reputable companies only, I’m new here myself but I’m sure there will be lots of into and reviews.
Basically what I’m saying is you asked ‘cheapest and most effective way’ of getting your car back on the road, but just consider effective, as they say ‘buy cheap buy twice’
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Thank you for the advise, I think a replacement engine is the softest option that's if I can find one from the right year. I've has a quick look on bay and can't believe how much an engine will cost. Last engine I purchased was for a ford Sierra for £50 quid. Oh well time moves on I guess!
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Repairs to that at APi are as follows;
Bring the engine out of the car. We will fit a new crank and bearings, 1 x weight matched con rod, gaskets and seals after a through cleanup. £1000.00 + VAT
Bring the car; £1500.00 + VAT all of the above, but includes remove and replace and all liquids & consumables.
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Bring the engine out of the car. We will fit a new crank and bearings, 1 x weight matched con rod, gaskets and seals after a through cleanup. £1000.00 + VAT
Bring the car; £1500.00 + VAT all of the above, but includes remove and replace and all liquids & consumables.
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Probably shooting myself in the foot here, If I needed to buy in an engine I'd use Grade A. One of the better sources.
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Repairs to that at APi are as follows;
Bring the engine out of the car. We will fit a new crank and bearings, 1 x weight matched con rod, gaskets and seals after a through cleanup. £1000.00 + VAT
Bring the car; £1500.00 + VAT all of the above, but includes remove and replace and all liquids & consumables.
Call for clarification if you wish.
Car collection from Spalding £100.00 + VAT
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Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Hayward & Scott exhausts
Carbonetics clutches
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Hybrid front mount intercooler kits
AP Racing brakes and clutches
Performance friction products
And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch
www.apiengines.com
www.apiimpreza.com
01926 614333
Bring the engine out of the car. We will fit a new crank and bearings, 1 x weight matched con rod, gaskets and seals after a through cleanup. £1000.00 + VAT
Bring the car; £1500.00 + VAT all of the above, but includes remove and replace and all liquids & consumables.
Call for clarification if you wish.
Car collection from Spalding £100.00 + VAT
David APi
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Hayward & Scott exhausts
Carbonetics clutches
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Hybrid front mount intercooler kits
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Performance friction products
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www.apiengines.com
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01926 614333
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It ought to be OK, but I have heard of cases where the oil has frothed badly in a Subaru. There might even be a Subaru bulletin about it, I seem to recall.
15W40 or 15W50 fully or semi in a known brand is our usual recommendation.
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