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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Hi
not a good start to my subaru ownership. The car is a 2000 on a w wrx uk within 7 days of ownership the bottom end is knocking when revved.
Question... cheapest and most effective way to get car back on the road
1 buy second hand engine, but iv'e been told engine has to be same year same code and not an import or it wont start and run.
2 have it rebuilt.... who would do it and would i have to sell a kidney on ebay to fund it?
3 just have someone replace the crank if thats possible?

appreciate any help or suggestions on the above or any recomendations if i need to go down new engine route
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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how many miles have you done since buying it ?? never mind fixing it i would be going getting my money back
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Hi
Thanks for reply, going back is not an option as purchased at general auction. So buyers beware etc!
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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Welcome, sorry to hear your experience has started like this.

The first thing to mention is probably the option you haven't considered. If the car's been purchased from a dealer (or similar), have you considered the option of rejecting it?

If that isn't an option, for whatever reason, then, to take your post in numerical order:

1. You've been told correctly. The only engines that will drop straight in and fire up straight away are from 1999 or 2000 model year Impreza Turbo 2000's (UK spec cars are called that, not "WRX"). Anything else will require further rebuilding work/expense - whether in terms of hardware under the bonnet, remapping the ECU, or both.

2. As far as rebuilds are concerned a lot depends on where you are. If you can get it to API Engines in Warwickshire, a top quality job will be done at a realistically good price. There are plenty of other good regional specialists, so searching around the board - and your regional forum would be well worthwhile to see both who's good and who's best avoided. Ideal Engines/SMR Engines, for one, you should avoid like the plague.

3. You can't simply "replace the crank" under these circumstances. If a bearing has failed, other parts - not least the shells, possibly oil pump, cooler, - will need replacing, and the engine will require careful examination to at least attempt to establish the process of failure in order to ensure that the rebuilt engine is going to run properly and last.
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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just do an engine swap try grade a subaru for an rengine
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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My thoughts are -

buy second hand engine? – I’ve never been a fan of this solution because usually when buying an engine, unless its in a car there is no way of knowing for definite the history of it, so you might save a few hundred quid as opposed to repairing what you got, only to find yourself with another dead engine in a few weeks.

have it rebuilt? – get prices of reputable companies only, I’m new here myself but I’m sure there will be lots of into and reviews.

Basically what I’m saying is you asked ‘cheapest and most effective way’ of getting your car back on the road, but just consider effective, as they say ‘buy cheap buy twice’
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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Read my thread 'Help, killed the scoob' for a guide on how not to do it !
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Thank you for the advise, I think a replacement engine is the softest option that's if I can find one from the right year. I've has a quick look on bay and can't believe how much an engine will cost. Last engine I purchased was for a ford Sierra for £50 quid. Oh well time moves on I guess!
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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Any suggestions for engine rebillers in the spalding, Lincolnshire area?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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Sorry was supposed to read engine rebuilders
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Scooby Clinic is about 80 miles away
API are about 90 miles away
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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Repairs to that at APi are as follows;

Bring the engine out of the car. We will fit a new crank and bearings, 1 x weight matched con rod, gaskets and seals after a through cleanup. £1000.00 + VAT

Bring the car; £1500.00 + VAT all of the above, but includes remove and replace and all liquids & consumables.

Call for clarification if you wish.

Car collection from Spalding £100.00 + VAT

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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bluejohndeere
just do an engine swap try grade a subaru for an rengine
But if he ends up in the same boat in ANOTHER week?
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Probably shooting myself in the foot here, If I needed to buy in an engine I'd use Grade A. One of the better sources.

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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
Repairs to that at APi are as follows;

Bring the engine out of the car. We will fit a new crank and bearings, 1 x weight matched con rod, gaskets and seals after a through cleanup. £1000.00 + VAT

Bring the car; £1500.00 + VAT all of the above, but includes remove and replace and all liquids & consumables.

Call for clarification if you wish.

Car collection from Spalding £100.00 + VAT

David APi

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Agents for:

Simtek, the most exciting new Ecu for years
Buddy Club exhausts
Hayward & Scott exhausts
Carbonetics clutches
BC suspension
Samco hose kits
Hybrid front mount intercooler kits
AP Racing brakes and clutches
Performance friction products

And of course; the well known APi Performance Exedy organic clutch

www.apiengines.com
www.apiimpreza.com

01926 614333
I wish I'd seen this a couple of months ago, just paid £2224 for a rebuild at Engine Tekniks, they did however put a big dent in my front wing free of charge. Running in oil coming out soon and was wondering if Mobil 1 Motorsport 15/50 is to thick for a my01?
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
But if he ends up in the same boat in ANOTHER week?

if it did (doubt it would) grade a would sort him out
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Old Oct 16, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IJE71
I wish I'd seen this a couple of months ago, just paid £2224 for a rebuild at Engine Tekniks, they did however put a big dent in my front wing free of charge. Running in oil coming out soon and was wondering if Mobil 1 Motorsport 15/50 is to thick for a my01?
For some reason Subaru's don't seem to like Mobil one even at our preferred viscosity of 15/50.

It ought to be OK, but I have heard of cases where the oil has frothed badly in a Subaru. There might even be a Subaru bulletin about it, I seem to recall.

15W40 or 15W50 fully or semi in a known brand is our usual recommendation.

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