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oil cooler placement
Is there any detriment to placing an oil cooler where the oe tmic would have been? My classic still has It's air con rad and an autobahn fmic, so its gonna be a tight squeeze behind the fmic. Thought mounting up below the bonnet vent might work.
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The car is built to look as subtle as possible from outside, oil cooler infront of the ic core would look out of place. Think I'm gonna have to have a play with getting it infront id the air con
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Dangerous assumption that. There is a potential downside, and as such if you don't actually have a known requirement for one, and take steps to mitigate the consequences of the increased volume of the oil system, you're potentially doing more harm than good.
What oil temps are you seeing at the moment and what usage is the car put to?
What oil temps are you seeing at the moment and what usage is the car put to?
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An oil temperature guage is about £50 and a dual oil temperature/oil pressure is under £100 and both are very easy to fit. It would be in your interests to monitor your oil temperature before you fit additional pipe run into your oil system. As I said already, on a Classic chances are you don't need an oil cooler unless you are on track a lot of the time.
Fitting a thermostat is not the simple solution you might think it is. Firstly, does the oil ever get beyond thermostat opening temperature? Secondly, you have added a fair bit more pipe run. How much longer does it take for the car to make oil pressure from cold start?
I had a car recently where the owner had fitted a remote oil filter in the inner wing. The logic of this I have still not worked out. The car was fitted with a temperature guage and a pressure guage. One of the first things I noticed about this car was that on starting it took quite a long time to reach operating oil pressure. The next thing I noticed was that you had to drive fairly hard to get 60 degrees oil temperature. Now the oil manufacturers have told me that their oils should generally run not less than 85C and they are good to 140C which I think is very high. I impose a 125C limit on anything I drive. Anyway, we had problems with this particular car which required an engine rebuild and we junked the remote oil filter. As soon as that was removed oil pressure on start was there in a couple of seconds ie. probably a sixth of the time it took previously and the car also started to operate at a much more sensible 80 deg.C oil temperature generally.
Now there is no doubt in my mind that having fitted the remote oil filter this engine under went substantial start up wear on every cold start and that accellerated the need for the rebuild we have just completed.
Like I said, oil temperature guage £50 or combined oil temperature/oil pressure £100. You then know what is happening within your engine and can make an intelligent decision as to whether you need an oil cooler.
Fitting a thermostat is not the simple solution you might think it is. Firstly, does the oil ever get beyond thermostat opening temperature? Secondly, you have added a fair bit more pipe run. How much longer does it take for the car to make oil pressure from cold start?
I had a car recently where the owner had fitted a remote oil filter in the inner wing. The logic of this I have still not worked out. The car was fitted with a temperature guage and a pressure guage. One of the first things I noticed about this car was that on starting it took quite a long time to reach operating oil pressure. The next thing I noticed was that you had to drive fairly hard to get 60 degrees oil temperature. Now the oil manufacturers have told me that their oils should generally run not less than 85C and they are good to 140C which I think is very high. I impose a 125C limit on anything I drive. Anyway, we had problems with this particular car which required an engine rebuild and we junked the remote oil filter. As soon as that was removed oil pressure on start was there in a couple of seconds ie. probably a sixth of the time it took previously and the car also started to operate at a much more sensible 80 deg.C oil temperature generally.
Now there is no doubt in my mind that having fitted the remote oil filter this engine under went substantial start up wear on every cold start and that accellerated the need for the rebuild we have just completed.
Like I said, oil temperature guage £50 or combined oil temperature/oil pressure £100. You then know what is happening within your engine and can make an intelligent decision as to whether you need an oil cooler.
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The engine is from an auto, so has no oe oil cooler, and no feed from the water pump. this was probably why the kit was fitted. The kit does have a couple of non return valves, i'd assume to stop dry start up. Dont know which way to go with it now....
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