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Old 02 March 2010, 10:09 PM
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I have been told that the ECU in my 1997 turbo 2000 can't be mapped is this right?

If the answer is no, can I take an ECU out of a later one could I swap it over?
Old 02 March 2010, 11:48 PM
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Not as easy as that I am afraid,you will need to purchase an aftermarket ecu or maybe find an ecu of a car of the same model year which had prodrive performance pack fitted for an extra 25 - 35 bhp.
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After market ecu ie apexi simtek solaris or gems
cheapest is the apexi i am in the same boat bit of a pain
Old 03 March 2010, 08:25 AM
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Power Fc is the way to go for lightly modified cars cost versus gain, ESL may also have somthing for 97 cars at some point.
Old 03 March 2010, 08:26 AM
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same here with my 97 uk...pain in the butt.gone as far as i can go safely(260.1 bhp) and now have to spend lots of dosh on simtek,turbo and injectors for next step.
Old 03 March 2010, 10:42 AM
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+1 on the same problem, but with what i want out of my car i would get from standard ecu anyway.
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It is mappable, but the ECU needs physical modification to do so.

Power Engineering used to offer this service. (still listed on their website: Engine and tuning Products for your Subaru Impreza, Turbo, WRX, STi or P1 )

Its not "plug and play" like the later cars. Which is why most mappers push for a complete ECU change, as they don't have the experience in modifying the MY97 ECU.
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very interesting

think i maybe making a phone call soon.
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I know its not cheap; So make sure you price up an aftermarket ECU (apexi, simtek etc)before going ahead.

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Originally Posted by ALi-B
It is mappable, but the ECU needs physical modification to do so.

Power Engineering used to offer this service. (still listed on their website: Engine and tuning Products for your Subaru Impreza, Turbo, WRX, STi or P1 )

Its not "plug and play" like the later cars. Which is why most mappers push for a complete ECU change, as they don't have the experience in modifying the MY97 ECU.
Thats a bold statement to make, i think most mappers would know how to plug in a UNICHIP into a MY97/98 ECU! Hardly modifying the ECU
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spent ages looking into this and none of the major tuners will touch the 97/98 ecu's.a second hand apexi set-up is about £400-£450 and £600 new so not bad.but is it worth spending loads more just to get another 30-40 bhp???
mine keeps up with sti's etc(cue the your talking out your *** comments)as got good suspension set-up and soon have mahoosive brakes! with 260.1 bhp...
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Thanks for the replies guys,

at least I have some options now. I'm now thinking it would probably be easier to sell up and buy one that has a mappable ECU lol.


Time to do some thinking
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why sell up?? Just buy a power fc off ebay and have it mapped to you car! Otherwise you will have to buy a newage scoob to get open source mapping.
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i had the same problem with my 98 uk terzo , i added a apexi power fc ecu mapped by zen performance and the car made 285bhp and 290 torque from a td04 with a few mods exhaust ect .and has ran faultless for for over 40,000 miles . the car had 132,000miles when it was first mapped 177,000 now. original engine and gearbox still fitted.

well worth the extra cost imho over chipping an ecu

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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Nothing for 97/98 and he is no longer trading
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
It is mappable, but the ECU needs physical modification to do so.

Power Engineering used to offer this service. (still listed on their website: Engine and tuning Products for your Subaru Impreza, Turbo, WRX, STi or P1 )

Its not "plug and play" like the later cars. Which is why most mappers push for a complete ECU change, as they don't have the experience in modifying the MY97 ECU.
I take offence to that remark!
The end result is my main consideration.
Currently the best solutions are after market replacement ecus for 97/98.
Second hand apexi (installed one today), simtek, solaris/syvecs.
Imho. That is from a lot of r+d nothing to do with lack of knowledge.
If you feel the 10year or older technology you suggest is better then thats your opinion but I assume you have also got one and tried all the alternatives?
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Originally Posted by my_first_scooby
Thanks for the replies guys,

at least I have some options now. I'm now thinking it would probably be easier to sell up and buy one that has a mappable ECU lol.


Time to do some thinking
i would highly suggest buying an import
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