UK300DVR

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hello all, just had a trip upto the main stealers as my alarm fob isnt working properly, it sometimes works, sometimes i have to stad for ages fiddling with it to make it work, the red led always comes on, however it dosent stay on like it should do. ivchanged the batteries, sprayed inside with electrolube and wd40 with no joy.

Main stealers said 47 pounds for a new fob and 30 quid to program it, which i thought was steep as iv read on here there 35 andthey supposed to program them for free?

Im thinking about getting an afermarket alarm fitted but im unsure if im going to be keeping the car after this year as im 25 and will probly be moving onto an sti.

Anyone got any ideas where i can get a cheaper fo from?

Cheers

milliemoo

i had a new one done three weeks ago.cost me 60 quid!!the old one was playing up tho.also keep a look out for tv/phone antenna as they block out any signal from your fob to the car!!!!

UK300DVR

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60 quid from a dealer? its not jst at home is everywhere so it couldnt be a tv/phone antenna

milliemoo

£62 to be exact.they must make a pretty penny from the amount of peeps who have had probs with these fobs!!!

milliemoo

i hope no unsavoury people are reading this post!!they may use it to their advantage!!

sy.

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YOU F*****NG CLOWN QUOTING THIS ON AN OPEN FORUM WHEN PEPS LIKE SIGMA SAM & OTHERS ECT... WORK HARD NOT DISCLOSING THIS INFO WHAT IF THE SCUM USED IT TO STEAL YOUR CAR!!!

ANYWAY WHATS THIS GOT TO DO WITH A FAULTY FOB HE DID NOT ASK HOW TO TAMPER WITH THE ALARM SYSTEM !!!!

NINJA_LOVER

Maybe my posting it on here will PREVENT your car being nicked?

Gotta think about both angles. If everyone knows that the alarms are easily bypassed then maybe they will consider getting a proper alarm fitted. The Sigma alarms fail at the first hurdle by having the connector block built into the control module. My experience with 'proper' alarms is that a 'loom' exits the module and travels for about 200mm before breaking into a connection block. All wires have rip off tags and ONLY the installation specialist knows what goes where UNLESS you trace every wire.

I found the piece in 'italics' in my post on another car forum. I thought it better that everyone know the vulnerability of the M30 and also that IF the keyfobs fail, which they do often, then there is a quick and easy route to getting home! My car was left in a strange place for 6 hours yesterday due to keyfob failure. I don't have the pin number and I don't have a spare fob.

I would recommend that everyone hides there control modules in a proper hard to get at place and also the alarm siren! An alarm is not going to stop anyone from nicking stuff out your car or indeed nicking your car. It'll only delay the inevitable. The longer YOU can delay it the more chance you have of catching the scum. I now know how to bypass the M30 in about 20 secs and I am sure I can figure a method of passing the factory immobiliser given half a day. I ain't a car thief so imagine how much time, practice and effort THEY go to to make sure they can nick your car!


I was actually SURPRISED at how easily I bypassed the alarm. Generally mechanical stuff is a walk in the park but electrical stuff takes a while, mechanical engineer after all...

My info is a 'get me home' trick. The majority of scum who nick cars would pick the easy ones or simply nick the keys. An alarm is a good thing to have but they all have their weaknesses. The M30 is an old alarm now.

every1sgottablue1

I suggest you delete that post Ninja?

360ste

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What Ninja has put does show that the alarm can be easily bypassed which is what is part of the aim of his post. With that in mind I agree that putting up such detailed info could be used by someone else to nick another members car.

every1sgottablue1

I agree 360, but i want to **** my next door neighbour but i wouldn't tell me misses!

sy.

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i agree the m30 is easy to bypass via its wires at the brain (same as many other alarms) but is that not why it is mounted in metal box with torx/security screws???? there is always a way around most security items my point was that its made easier when you tell everyone how to do it!!!

NINJA_LOVER

Maybe Sigma Sam is hiding the fact that the Sigma M30 alarm system is poorly designed? Maybe it's a fact that Subaru themselves are selling alarm systems in their vehicles with the knowledge that the alarms are easily bypassed?

Maybe the next time you park up in a slightly dodgey area safe in the knowledge that your beautiful alarm will save any unwarranted theft from happening you will actually now stop and think twice about it? Scrap the Sigma M30 if you have one and buy a decent SAFE alarm system, PRONTO!

carl heath

a steering wheel lock when used can be enough to put the opportunist off,i never leave my car without it.has anyone known these to be undone? and dont say how if at all possible !

NINJA_LOVER

DETAILED INFO?

Where's the detail? A monkey could figure out that all that is needed to bypass the alarm is two little pieces of wire approx 2cm long...

I would be more concerned about the location of the 'brain' and also the siren and the ease of access to it. Mine is clearly easily accessed! If it is difficult to access and the siren is well out of harms way then you will buy yourself valuable minutes. Most people wouldn't dream how easy it is to access and bypass the alarm so would be quite content to simply leave everything as it whereas now that I have highlighted the vulnerability of the alarm maybe people will have less reliance on the alarm so park in safer places and also take steps to ensure that the alarm is as hard to access as possible.

NINJA_LOVER

Some can be 'broken' in seconds. Check out google for how yours is rated.

Personally if someone wants your car then they are going to have your car. It's a sad story but true.

As much flashing and sounds and visible deterrents as possible MIGHT just be enough to save the day.

milliemoo

all this said,i think id rather have the sigma than none at all!!!!!!!!!!!

New_scooby_04

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Ninja Lover. I know your intentions are good mate, but the kind of info you've provided above really isn't best posted on an open forum. If you have "sensitive" info that might help an individual out, then it's best to use the PM system.

If you want to articulate an opinion about the adequacy of an alarm system with respect to tampering, then please do so, but maybe stop short of a "how to" guide to circumventing it!

NINJA_LOVER

It may well get a fellow Scooby driver home though after their fob/alarm fails... Imagine being stuck in the middle of nowhere with a baby needing fed and the missus going of her head and it's all down to your alarm which is a simple two minute job to temporarily/permanently circumvent...

I 'found' the info on the wiring for the alarm on an 'open forum' all I did was guess the bypassing requirements and then try it out.

Unless your Subaru has a 'Sigma M30' sticker on it's window then my info is of no use to a car thief as they won't have a clue what alarm is fitted in your vehicle!

New_scooby_04

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In which case, they now know who to approach via PM if they want the info!

That said, if they're in the middle of no-where, and haven't already got this info, it probably won't matter where it's posted, as they probably won't have access to the internet!

They could always ring the AA.....apparently, he's a very nice man!