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Old 30 January 2010, 01:24 PM
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Default 390 lbs/ft torque from a vf34?

Hi guys got back from [the racing line] after haveing the car mapped the results were 350hp/390lbs

just wondering if anyone else has seen a vf34 give that much torque as i only see around 350/350

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Old 30 January 2010, 01:30 PM
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Seems rather high to me. I'd of thought you'd be looking slightly higher BHP & lower torque.

What was the Turbo running at ??
Old 30 January 2010, 01:31 PM
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yes thats about right for a VF34
its the same as mine full torque at 3000
Old 30 January 2010, 01:31 PM
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that's a lot of ft out 2.0lt engine with a vf turbo where wa dyno and on what dyno
Old 30 January 2010, 01:47 PM
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1.7 tail to 1.2,
Dyno Dynamics rolling road
Old 30 January 2010, 01:50 PM
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1.7 on a VF34 is a tad on the high side I would have thought.

I think the norm is around 1.5 dropping to 1.2/3

Good result none the less
Old 30 January 2010, 02:28 PM
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cheers daz, now lets see how long the gearbox lasts
Old 30 January 2010, 03:00 PM
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At that kind of boost level I don't doubt it for a minute, I have seen 360lbft from 1.4 bar on a stock motor, so with forged internals and good boost no reason why not.
Old 30 January 2010, 03:58 PM
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compared it to the graph u posted in vf34 output thred

whats this fud factor on rolling road i keep hearing about? some are 22 and some are 24? or do some read high and some low? matt at trl is 22
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thats a brilliant readout
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Yeah as MJ says, it's that larger-than-typical boost level (for a VF34) of 1.7bar that's netting you that peak 390lb ft. If your motor's built to take it, then fantastic!

How much of the rev band is that 390lb ft spread over though? It's prob quite narrow... so, roughly, what's the average lb ft figure that's spread over the largest part of the rev band (the important thing for the road)?

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Originally Posted by joz8968
Yeah as MJ says, it's that larger-than-typical boost level (for a VF34) of 1.7bar that's netting you that peak 390lb ft. If your motor's built to take it, then fantastic!

How much of the rev band is that 390lb ft spread over though? It's prob quite narrow... so, roughly, what's the average lb ft figure that's spread over the largest part of the rev band (the important thing for the road)?
hmmmm,interesting.....
Old 30 January 2010, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pooeater
cheers daz, now lets see how long the gearbox lasts
i would like to know the answer to that.
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
hmmmm,interesting.....
It all to do with the plugs....

Old 30 January 2010, 08:30 PM
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For a good car on the road you always want a higher torque value
Old 30 January 2010, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
It all to do with the plugs....

it never ends! im worried for the 5 speed box on this car,with nearly 400 lbft? im assuming the op is well aware of the gearbox poss probs at this level.defo great result tho!!! and i was worried of running 350lbft????
Old 30 January 2010, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
...im worried for the 5 speed box on this car,with nearly 400 lbft? im assuming the op is well aware of the gearbox poss probs at this level...
I'm sure he'll soon find out...

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Old 30 January 2010, 09:25 PM
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all depends on how the OP drives as to if his gearbox will last
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the ty754 will take 400 ft lb of torque, so long as you drive conservativly
Old 30 January 2010, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
the ty754 will take 400 ft lb of torque, so long as you drive conservativly
here we go again.......many have broke well under 400lbft,i wonder how many people running 350-400lbft have had the gearbox last for a long time?and how many have broke at this level?im with the understanding that 350 will be about tops.
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The box's age, and therefore its wear to date, will add to the factors too.

I suspect a c.<75k mile MY99/00 TY754 8-bolter, if previously treated symapthatically, could last a while at under 400lb ft. Assuming NO launches/changing gear like a dick...

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Originally Posted by joz8968
The box's age, and therefore its wear to date, will add to the factors too.

I suspect a c.<75k mile MY99/00 TY754 8-bolter, if previously treated symapthatically, could last a while at under 400lb ft. Assuming NO launches/changing gear like a dick...
what about a 754 box that has double that mileage which has been looked after?fluids changed etc,no launches etc etc?
Old 30 January 2010, 10:26 PM
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Well, the teeth of the gearsets would probably be significantly rounded off through general wear (double the wear! in this example) - thus presenting much less area for engagement. So you're asking a lot of torque to be transferred through smaller surface contact areas.... Go figure.

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I'm running a VF22 and recently made 326bhp. Engine is from an sti ra and is fully forged though.



And yes, I know the gearbox will need to be updated very soon.

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413lb ft from a 2.0 on a VF22!!! Is that just under only 1.4bar I can make out?! Are you sure that's not 413Nm i.e. c.304lb ft???

What jungle juice concoction are you running?!

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Old 30 January 2010, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
413lb ft from a 2.0 on a VF22!!! Is that just under only 1.4bar I can make out?! Are you sure that's not 413Nm i.e. c.304lb ft???

What jungle juice concoction are you running?!
413 lbft??? if this is correct im surprised the gearbox hasnt jumped out of the car!
Old 30 January 2010, 11:50 PM
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Powerstation always read Nm or they did a couple of years back
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just spoted that on the print out,it is indeed 413nm.
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Ooops, yeah it's 413nm.. I'll get me coat.
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