what is standard turbo on 93 wrx ?
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I'm running 340bhp/320 ft lb @1.3 bar on td05 16g with 440 injectors, apexi power fc, fmic, mongoose de cat exaust, apexi induction, walboro fuel pump, i think thats it.
Oh yeah, the gearbox just broke tho, we only stopped at 340 to preserve the gearbox hence the 440's but with 550's you could get 350 but that is the top end of the 16g. I would seriously consider staying under that tho in a 93 (mine is a 95).
ftr, just bolting on a bigger turbo wouldn't take you to 350bhp, you'd still need the supporting mods,with the right mods the 18g could see 380 bhp but you'd need a gearbox upgrade so youd just aswell get something that would see over 400, IMO 18g is a waste of time but some people manage to run them on original gearboxes - type ra's usually.
But if you take power over 300 you really need to forge the internals - pistons etc, you'll get a month or 2 of ragging around before the bottom end lets go if you don't....You can find second hand forged engines for fairly cheap - it just depends on your budget.........300 is safe, but who wants safe??
Oh yeah, the gearbox just broke tho, we only stopped at 340 to preserve the gearbox hence the 440's but with 550's you could get 350 but that is the top end of the 16g. I would seriously consider staying under that tho in a 93 (mine is a 95).
ftr, just bolting on a bigger turbo wouldn't take you to 350bhp, you'd still need the supporting mods,with the right mods the 18g could see 380 bhp but you'd need a gearbox upgrade so youd just aswell get something that would see over 400, IMO 18g is a waste of time but some people manage to run them on original gearboxes - type ra's usually.
But if you take power over 300 you really need to forge the internals - pistons etc, you'll get a month or 2 of ragging around before the bottom end lets go if you don't....You can find second hand forged engines for fairly cheap - it just depends on your budget.........300 is safe, but who wants safe??
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No one has asked you the main question (you should put all the cars details in when asking for help as they vary) and that is if the car is a wagon or a saloon as both have different turbo's.
The wagon comes with a smaller td04 turbo and the saloon has the td05 16g.
To get 350bhp your going to need a fair few bits, exhaust, fmic, panel filter or induction kit, upgraded fuel pump, 550cc injectors, esl chip or after market ecu (plus map), a big brake upgrade inc braided hoses and to be on the safe side on an old car, a new oil pump.
You may also need a new gearbox, it just depends on how good the one you have is, the wrx ones are not that strong, my99 onwards have the stronger casings and sti's have the stronger (but only a little bit) gearsets.
I would also put some money on one side for a clutch and see how much it will add to your insurance, or just stick to around 310bhp and you won't have to add half those bits (it will still need remapping and I would still upgrade most of those components).
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The wagon comes with a smaller td04 turbo and the saloon has the td05 16g.
To get 350bhp your going to need a fair few bits, exhaust, fmic, panel filter or induction kit, upgraded fuel pump, 550cc injectors, esl chip or after market ecu (plus map), a big brake upgrade inc braided hoses and to be on the safe side on an old car, a new oil pump.
You may also need a new gearbox, it just depends on how good the one you have is, the wrx ones are not that strong, my99 onwards have the stronger casings and sti's have the stronger (but only a little bit) gearsets.
I would also put some money on one side for a clutch and see how much it will add to your insurance, or just stick to around 310bhp and you won't have to add half those bits (it will still need remapping and I would still upgrade most of those components).
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But if you take power over 300 you really need to forge the internals - pistons etc, you'll get a month or 2 of ragging around before the bottom end lets go if you don't....You can find second hand forged engines for fairly cheap - it just depends on your budget.........300 is safe, but who wants safe??
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ok sorry , saloon and supporting mods are full blitz exhausts decat up pipe, down pipe, FMIC, fuel pressure reg, walbro fuel pump still runing standard 440 inj, induction kit and an apexi pfc mapped by JGM.
clutch is something i'm looking at also.
clutch is something i'm looking at also.
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Being pedantic here but 440s aren't standard for your year car .
I've had a 93 wrx and was looking into getting a lot of power out of it but looking at the money involved into getting the power and the things that may/could break i decided it was cheaper (in the long run) to buy a later model classic STI
Personally i think 300bhp in a classic makes a quick car.
I've had a 93 wrx and was looking into getting a lot of power out of it but looking at the money involved into getting the power and the things that may/could break i decided it was cheaper (in the long run) to buy a later model classic STI
Personally i think 300bhp in a classic makes a quick car.
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Being pedantic here but 440s aren't standard for your year car .
I've had a 93 wrx and was looking into getting a lot of power out of it but looking at the money involved into getting the power and the things that may/could break i decided it was cheaper (in the long run) to buy a later model classic STI
Personally i think 300bhp in a classic makes a quick car.
I've had a 93 wrx and was looking into getting a lot of power out of it but looking at the money involved into getting the power and the things that may/could break i decided it was cheaper (in the long run) to buy a later model classic STI
Personally i think 300bhp in a classic makes a quick car.
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Needed 4 gearboxes though............but think that was due to a paddle clutch with missing paddle.....bloody nightmare that was....
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Being pedantic here but 440s aren't standard for your year car .
I've had a 93 wrx and was looking into getting a lot of power out of it but looking at the money involved into getting the power and the things that may/could break i decided it was cheaper (in the long run) to buy a later model classic STI
Personally i think 300bhp in a classic makes a quick car.
I've had a 93 wrx and was looking into getting a lot of power out of it but looking at the money involved into getting the power and the things that may/could break i decided it was cheaper (in the long run) to buy a later model classic STI
Personally i think 300bhp in a classic makes a quick car.
My apologies guys typed up pipe aswell as down pipe and 'standard' injectors.
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The 380's could make 310 horses as i mate of mine did with his classic, more likely is a max of 290-300 bhp though.
With the mods the OP has mentioned I'd guess that your brakes and injectors would be the next thing to change. Get 440's and some later 4 pot calipers and disks (295mm I think) to suit. Get JGM to map with the new injectors and you'll have yourself one seriously revvy quick car on the road. The injectors, assuming everything else is good, should see around 320 - 330 bhp, although some cars do make more..
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Mines been running 330bhp/289lb/ft for a kick in the **** off 3 years now.
Standard internals, 380cc inj's, 2 pots and a standard ECU running 1 bar of boost.
Mines had it's **** kicked in on the drag strip in that time, 5-6.5k rpm launches.
Only lunched 1 box at this power level, and that was on my way home from Tesco. Stripped 2nd
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Load of crap.
Mines been running 330bhp/289lb/ft for a kick in the **** off 3 years now.
Standard internals, 380cc inj's, 2 pots and a standard ECU running 1 bar of boost.
Mines had it's **** kicked in on the drag strip in that time, 5-6.5k rpm launches.
Only lunched 1 box at this power level, and that was on my way home from Tesco. Stripped 2nd
Mines been running 330bhp/289lb/ft for a kick in the **** off 3 years now.
Standard internals, 380cc inj's, 2 pots and a standard ECU running 1 bar of boost.
Mines had it's **** kicked in on the drag strip in that time, 5-6.5k rpm launches.
Only lunched 1 box at this power level, and that was on my way home from Tesco. Stripped 2nd
You do not have 330 bhp on 380's, as stated above they can make 310, but they would run too lean above that. I can only imagine that you've 'added up' your bhp based on what the advertisers say you 'could gain'.
post your rolling road printout to back up your cocky boast.
At the end of the day I don't care if the original poster wrecks his engine and wastes alot of money, theres being sensible and then theres taking advice from people who clearly have no idea.
Yes perhaps his car could run over 300 but I don't want to be the **** who tells him to do it because I guarantee if he runs it at 330bhp - AN ACTUAL 330BHP - it will let go!
But thanks for the laugh micky
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