starkie

hi should be getting my first classic in a few weeks and wondering who has went 3d with there cars as i have a brand new aem wolf 3d system sitting in the house from back when i had my corsa turbo that i never used. I will be fitting to the scoob car will be fairly standard the now just downpipes exhaust airfilter etc at the moment but will go alot further as time goes on just wondered who has done it and what advantages and disadvantages they found


cheers

scooby-tc

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eh?

starkie

3d management system

Jolly Green Monster

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piggyback ecu, not worth doing when there is replacement aftermarket ecus or the standard ecu is mappable, depending on year of car.

Simon

starkie

hi green monster was kind of hoping you would post the ecu is standalone not piggy back car is a 96 wrx

Jolly Green Monster

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had a quick look on their website and so little info on there I assumed it was piggyback.

I would assume it is not going to work as well as others but does it use the maf or is it map based?

Used AEM on a couple of cars but not imprezas.
There are a number of companies selling AEM stuff as if they are AEM when they are not.. got stung with an ecu for skyline, not enough igntion outputs.. it was for a 4cylinder rather than 6cylinder when it turned up.. and the company stopped answering emails and phonecalls as soon as it was delivered.


Simon

starkie

here is some of the stats


Hand-controller compatible (with back-lit display for easy night use)

· PC software compatible

· Suitable for 1,2,3,4,5,6,8 & 12 cylinder & Rotary engines

· Wideband Air Fuel ratio monitor (requires hand controller & wideband LSM11 type sensor - sold separately)

*some plug-in units are not wideband AFR compatible due to OEM connectors and pin-outs used

· Closed Loop control

· Minimum/maximum data logging

· Ignition - Up to 4 cylinders sequential, 8 in multi coil, 16 in distributor applications

· Up to 16 injectors driven - 4 cylinders sequential, 6 & 8 sequentially banked, Rotary & staged, peak & hold injector output

· Boost control output

· Idle speed control - PWM type (plus stepper motor on V4 plus)

· Dedicated fan & fuel pump control

· Auxiliary inputs & outputs

V4 - 2 inputs, 2 outputs

V4plus - 4 inputs, 5 outputs

(these are true auxiliary's as, unlike many other brands, the Wolf 3D V4 has other outputs to run boost control, idle etc. so these are not wasted on necessary engine functions).

· Cold start enrichment - adjustable each 2 Deg C.

· Acceleration enrichment

· Deceleration enleanment

· Internal MAP sensor– up to 23.5 PSI, however external sensor may be used - 30 PSI and higher available

· Turbo Timer module control (unit sold separately, not compatible with plug-in units)

· Comprehensive installation manual & user guide

· Waterproof main connector with gold plated terminals

· Strong anodised box with diagnostic LED’s that display injector and ignition outputs, auxiliary’s etc.

· PIN code vehicle security (requires hand controller)

· Lifetime Warranty



Specifications


Wolf3D V4

Processor 16MHz, 16Bit

Load Bands 16

RPM Bands Every 125RPM

Idle Control Yes, Solenoid

Boost Control Yes

Aux Outputs 2

Aux Inputs 2

N_Scooby

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It is known as re-inventing the wheel. Stick with what has been proven over the years to work - ESL, Simtec & Power FC (and Solaris, but I don't know much about them!!), or Ecutek re-maps.

Best sell your 3d on and put the money towards an ecu more aimed at a Subaru with the knowledge from experienced mappers, like JGM above, can provide.

Splitpin

If I were you I'd flog it. Even if you get it installed and running, you'll end up with an ECU that, at base hardware level, is less powerful than the OE Subaru one - especially if you get a late classic or newage.

starkie

looking through the instruction manual when going through the settings there is one there for the subaru flat 4 so it has been designed so that it can be used on it. given the fact that i have it here sitting i am going to use it.

just wondering why you recon its less powerful than than the oe ecu

Jolly Green Monster

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you know how to set a car up then?

starkie

no i am a mechanical technician so the actual fitting of it wont be a problem but the actual setting up will be either andy forrest or dastek (dastek only 20 min away)

really just wondering what differences there are once the car ecu has been changed to 3d on these engines (know my way round a vauxhall let better)

Jolly Green Monster

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you don't seem to be understanding it.. there is a reason it is not being used by mappers of subarus already.. it is not as good as other stuff available including the original ecu.. ring and ask them but I suspect they won't touch it.

Simon