Marcward989

Hi guys
I have a 2004 Impreza WRX Turbo
When i bought the car the guy said it was uk spec etc. As this was my first impreza i never really thought any different. Having a little prang on the drivers front wing i decided to ring subaru up to check on a price. They informed me it was classed as imported. SHOCKED. But what im wondering is, is a front wing on an import car the same as a uk spec car, as the guy said STi impreza have bigger flares. ANy information on this matter would be grateful. Also if anyone knows the price of a wing from a dealer as i cant find a second hand one anywhere

Cheers guys

daz1968

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2004 wrx would be same wing as any 2004 saloon, only wings that are different are the wagon ones as they have no flared arches. yours could be a euro import, are the front seats airbagged or non airbag as import cars have better front seats, same as sti but in wrx material. I have fitted a pair of these to my uk wrx and they are much better.

Splitpin

With you so far. Is this a saloon or a wagon?

Nothing you have said to us so far tells us whether it is or isn't. What is the Applied Model code on the ID plate attached to the suspension turret? If it is GDAxK8D (x will be a C, D or possibly E) you do have a UK market WRX. If it's something else, tell us.

Without having listened to the conversation it's difficult to work out what you are asking there. Are you telling us that you were told that your particular car is imported or was the chap making a general comment? What information did you provide in order for the bloke to draw this conclusion, the registration number?

As a general point, all Imprezas are built in Japan so from one point of view they are all classed as "imports". If the previous owner told you it was a UK spec car it probably is, although you can check easily via the Applied Model code.

Yes. A UK WRX saloon wing is the same as a Japanese/European/etc market front wing (and the same as an STi one for that matter).

What does that have to do with your car? You said up top that you have a WRX. This claim is wrong, btw. Newage STi and WRX saloons use the same wing pressing.

We need a slightly clearer picture in order to give you the information you want. Do you have a WRX or an STi, for example? Your post is a little muddled in that area.

How hard have you looked? Have you tried a specialist Subaru breaker like Grade A?

If you want the price of a new one from a dealer just phone them up and ask for a price on part number 57110FE080. Note though that this is a primed, unfinished panel so you will need to factor in the cost of painting and, if necessary, fitting.

PeeVee

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Hiya,

Body panels do not change on the Wrx between the UK & Import models.

The part number for the drivers front wing (assuming it's a saloon) is 57110FE080 and currently has a retail price of £111.16 from a dealer.... You would of course have to get this painted.

my94wrx

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i have been after a wing for a good while with people wanting £100 plus for a scabby kicked around the floor wing, i was shocked at how cheap a wing was from subaru at £111.16+vat so i brought one straight away.

Marcward989

Hi guys thanks for the great response and im sorry i wasnt very clear. so ill try clear a few things up.

Right, my car is a impreza WRX turbo Saloon. The number im looking at starts with JF1GDAKD35?? this is the Vehicle I.D Number off my M.O.T certificate as i havent got my car with me to look at. When i rang the subaru dealership in sheffield i gave my Reg plate over the phone and recieved a call back with the man stating sorry but your car hasnt come up as been UK spec so we will need your Chassis number to make sure that we find the right part. When i bought the car the guy who sold it me said it was UK Spec model so i was a little worried to find this out.
Trying to find a used part i rung a Impreza breakers yard and they said they only had STi models for the Blobeye shape in stock, an that it would fit my car as the STi wings have a 1/2 inch bigger flare on them so i would need to buy both sides.
So all ive been asking for is a WRX Turbo and then me saying no sorry the STi wont fit. I must of rung over 40 companies. I tried Grade A and they said no, maybe because i was asking for just the WRX version in particular. Hope this clarifys some points and thanks again

Splitpin

On the basis of that partial VIN, I would be reasonably confident that you will find that you do have a UK specification car.

There are two ways of looking at that. If you have got a Japanese market car then you could have something better than you thought. Meanwhile if it turns out to be an "unofficial" UK spec car supplied by a grey importer, the response you got is nothing more than the dealer (or rather his electronic parts system) being awkward because the UK importer tries to make it difficult for people who buy cars through unofficial channels.

That's bollocks, to put it bluntly. Either the voice on the phone doesn't know what they're talking about, or they're trying to sell you a pair of wings for the sake of it.

Whether you have a 2003, 04 or 05MY car the part number used on all WRX and STi front wings is exactly the same - 57110FE080. No difference in flare, width etc etc. Same part - I've just triple checked the catalogue.

If you want to buy a secondhand wing, it won't matter whether you get a WRX or STi one provided the colour is correct.

So you could phone that lot back, or you could go to your dealer and get a new one. Either way you'll get something that'll fit.

Marcward989

Hi, just rung up subaru technical service department themselves just before you posted that, and the guy says he brought up all specifications for the blob eye WRX and WRX STi and the STi does have a bigger flare on the arch itself something to do with wheel size and spacing. wish things were simple, i aint very technically minded when it comes to things so all this help if very grateful haha.

PeeVee

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Your Vin/Chassis no: is that of a European car, the JF1 denotes europe whereas if it had started with GDA then it would be a JDM (Japaneese Domestic Market) version.

The wings will pysically fit as the bolt holes are in the same place for both the Wrx & the Sti

Splitpin

The wheel width and offset on the STi vs WRX is different. The front wing pressings, however, are the same - at least according to Subaru's own parts system.

Try this: Phone the bloke from Subaru Technical Service back and ask him to look up and tell you the part number for an MY04 STi Type UK front wing. (If he asks you for a model code or VIN, give him GDBDKEH).

Write down whatever he tells you.

Then ask him to look up the part number for an MY04 WRX saloon front wing. If he needs a code, give him GDADK8D.

Write whatever he tells you underneath the first number he gave. Tell him (and us) if they're the same.

Marcward989

Right, been back in touch. Another long story. I asked him if the part number was the same for both cars, he said it was a front Offside wing of some sort but without the chassis number he wouldnt know which one i needed. So i gave him the first one you said regarding the STi Type UK and he said he wouldnt be able to find out for me as this is classed as imported, and should start with JF1 which is uk. i explained to this individual about the situation and he was really helpful. He said he thought they were same but wouldnt notice a small width distance when working on imprezas as it was minimal. But he said without UK Vin numbers he wouldnt be able to check, he would need the entire Import VIN Number to check with there Manufactuers.
When ordering if you order with the chassis number also, maybe they send you out the wing with the same part number but with the STi width

PeeVee

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Well I can confirm that the guy working for the Technical dept at Subaru does not know what he is talking about!

just in case Subaru's uk parts system was having a bad day, I have looked at the build/parts catalouge for the Prodrive Gp"n" rally car (which is built from an Sti) and they list the front wing as being the same as Splitpin & Myself make it (57110FE080)

PeeVee

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No Chance.... If it was different part it would have a different part number.

Marcward989

Think im having a bad day also with this. Just going on what the guy said, has to start with JF1 to be a uk car, anything else is classed as import on there computer system so need entire VIN numbers to check up. Never knew it could be so confussing for a simple thing on a car. Dont no no one either with an STi or i would of trooped round there with a tape measure and a keen eye, haha. Am just thinking same parts number but different actually delivered wing when you give them the chassis number. Soon as i said the 5711 he went front wing of some sort. Grrrrrrr

PeeVee

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Yes, as I said earlier, If your Vin starts JF1 then it is a european car, not necessarily uk though, but it does mean it was built to be shipped to europe.

The Subaru uk parts system that the dealers have access to, will only recognise a vin starting with JF1. There is a japaneese spec parts program but very few people over here have managed to get hold of a copy, and this system will only work with Japaneese vin no's.

Your Technical??? man, if he wanted to, could look up a part number for an Sti without using a vin no:... he just needs to manualy input the desired car into his system.. how do you think that Splitpin & Myself are doing it.... You havent given us any complete vin's.

You say you "never knew it could be so confussing for a simple thing on a car", it realy IS very simple.... Subaru fitted only one type/shape/size of wing to all Impreza Saloons between 2002 and the end of 2005.... Hell... even the almighty Prodrive are saying the same thing.

Marcward989

Yes i can find the part number on a website regarding a wing, and they are the same on this site, but that technical guy said they are different which lead me to believe that the chassis number would indicate which version you needed. And the guy at the dealership who i rang regardin the vin no's etc just said without the VIN number they cant search there systems or ring the manufacturer up as this is what they go on to decide which part you need, the part number only give them an initial part you need

Splitpin

As PeeVee has already said that's f'ing rubbish. If the STi and WRX had different width wings they would have different part numbers, period.

Tell this lot to stop filling your head full of bullsh*t and sell you a wing. There's nothing more to be added here, PV and myself are giving you correct information, the rest are c9cking you about.

Hahahahahaha, so an STi Type UK is classed as imported? Is this the same w*nk*r who told you your own car was an import, by any chance?

Marc, can you give me the number and name of this bloke you spoke to? I'm going to phone him up and ask what they're on.

Marcward989

Well the guys that told me they were bigger flares were a local breakers yard but more importantly Subaru Technical, and there number is 0121 7474000, and the people that are saying all this stuff about the VIN numbers are local subaru dealers, i rung two different ones in the last 3 days and both have said same about VIN Numbers and also the difference in flare. Thinking of trying to go to a breakers yard and looking for myself as no one i know owns an impreza never mind an STi. Or maybe emailing the guy from Grade A. Just dont want to spend money an get things wrong

Splitpin

Well, they could just about be forgiven for being a bit clueless.

So which one gave you all this bollocks about your car and the STi Type UK being "imports"?

Have you actually looked at the Applied Model code on your own car yet? If you have, what is it?

Either they're deliberately p*ss*ng you about, or you're trying to wind us up. Obviously no way for us to tell which so prob best leave you to your own devices from this point.

If you're straight up, phone IM (Subaru technical) back tomorrow morning and ask to speak to the Subaru technical manager. Tell them you've been p*ss*d around and that you want the part number for an Impreza III WRX offside front wing without any further delay.

Marcward989

The subaru dealership said about the STi type uk been an import and my car also. two different dealerships one in sheffield one in rotherham. I havent looked at this "applied Model Code" as the car is in a garage waiting to be fixed and i didnt have the means today to get up to check it out, just going off the VIN Number so far off the MOT certificate but will check tomorrow.
Thats the company i rung earlier IM, they put me through to the technical department and i explained the situation, the guy said im not too sure because i havent ever been asked a question like that but if i put you on hold i can find out. Put me on hold and came back saying they were two different wings. Will dig deeper tomorrow and if i find any thing out they may put my mind at rest or anything interestin people may want to know ill post it up
Thanks for all your help so far though.

Splitpin

They're full of sh*t. The "STi Type UK" is, as it sounds, the name given to the bona fide official UK, imported by IM, version of the STi. Even IM's technical dept will be able to tell you that. For a main dealer to claim these cars are imports is absolutely ridiculous. On that basis I would be highly sceptical of their claim that your own car is an import also, sounds like they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

You need to as it will give you a definitive answer as to whether your car is UK specification or not, which will address one of your key concerns. As it's important why don't you phone the garage and ask them to have a look?

Says a lot.

Yet they couldn't give you the part numbers! If you don't get any luck from the two muppets nearer to you, phone the next Subaru dealer you get off the UK website and ask their parts department for a price on that number PeeVee and I gave you earlier. It's the part that comes up when you search for a front wing for a 2004 WRX.

jonny_693

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