hardguy007

hi, hoping someone can point me in the right direction. needing a rally engine. was for getting a semi closed deck and going the forged route but a local chap who does a lot of rallying said id be every bit as well with getting a v4 or v5 block and using it. planning on a td05 20g with it and gems.

anybody any advice or reccomendations as i hear something different svery time im speaking to folk.

cheers

steve rally

YHM..

Grant74

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You think you are ambitious....

I have an evil thought about putting a TD05 on, maybe a 16 or 18 for spool, and running it normally for the hillclimbs, and then putting a restrictor on, and try and run it using a second map on my Simtek!

The rally is just for fun for now, and is a 1 day tarmac event.

Splitpin

Hardguy (do you do gay **** in your spare time? ). before you go any further, we need to have an idea what sort of rallying you will be doing. In many cases with road or stage rallying you will need your engine to satisfy some basic technical limitations, if not full-on homologation, so you may find that just bolting together random bits may get you chucked out for technical infringements.

Tell us more about what you want to achieve and it will be easier to advise you accurately.

hardguy007

planning on clubman

Splitpin

Clubman Group N, Group A/Open?

hardguy007

group a

Splitpin

Best option for you is to have a word with some teams or competitors in the series you want to run in, or get a set of championship regulations and see what, if any, technical restrictions there are. If Gp A regs are enforced to any significant extent you will probably find yourself constrained over which bits you can drop into your shell.

If it's effectively open, then go for your life, but much better to find out before you start than have to do it all over again, or, worse, find yourself getting excluded when someone protests you.

TonyBurns

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I hope you have a lot of spare cash

Tony

TonyBurns

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I would have a read of this, its just info mainly but Group A is not cheap, a gearbox is circa 80k, and you have to run that specially manufactured gearbox, not a road car gearbox, you wont be able to use that 20g, group a cars are restricted so a smaller VF34and a restriction is then placed with 34?mm on the turbo housing? will be a better choice, then there is the engine etc, your in for a shock I think

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen..._WRC_reg_a.pdf

Tony

Splitpin

Tony, mun, cool your jets. You're talking about the WRC there. Hardguy (still can't quite deal with that username) is talking about clubman Gp A, which a lot of the time works out as building a car cheaply to Group N regs and then putting a 34mm restrictor on it.

TonyBurns

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Ah I see still a group N car is not exactly cheap to run, best doing just some basic rallying and not stuck with too many regs!

Tony

Godspeed Brakes

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If its a classic it will be out of homologation this year , on most clubman events , and just about all single venue rallies they dont run a Gp N class , so you can fit pretty much whatever you want on your car , and will run in the over 2 litre 4WD class , the only thing you have to do is fit a 34mm restrictor.
There is no point fitting a turbo nutter bast4rd turbo to your car only for the restrictor to kill the boost above 5-6k revs , I run a VF34 turbo on mine , with a good anti lag and it pulls from nothing , I have 1bar of boost standing still !

Mine is Group N , and will be upping it to clubman Gp A in the next few months , it costs about £2k a day to run it taking everything into account !

Cheers Ian