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Old 29 June 2009, 09:40 PM
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Hi guys,

I really need some help.

I've had my Subaru Impreza STi 6 (Import) for just under a year now. Bought it with 59000 miles on the clock and was told it was running apprx 340 bhp.

After buying the car, I got it fully serviced (all oils changed including diff, gear etc).

I've only put about 2000 miles on the car and feel that I look after it quite well (thoroughly warm her up before boosting off, letting her cool properly (turbo timer), not thrashing for longing than about 1 min etc)

Reluctantly I recently put my car up for sale as my insurance is due for renewal next month (cheaper to drive my company car - free!- not as fun though :-(

After 2 days of it being up for sale on the internet, I thought I'd take it for a dyno run (rolling road) test and see what she can do, before I sell her....

This was to be my downfall!

Both runs on the dyno went perfect, well, if your car is supposed to sound like it's about to blow up then these guys done a great job! lol

The car was running 354.1 bhp at the engine and just over 300 Ib torque!
Excellent news!

Left the garage and drove apprx 5 miles home and nearing my destination, I heard a tapping/clicking sound from my engine. opened the bonnet and listened. It is/was a not so loud tapping sound that followed the revs - ie. if i put foot on the gas, the clicking gets faster and louder, it follows the rev sound.

After speaking to a few friends (not reallly car enthusiasts) I'd heard terms like 'Main bearings', 'Piston Rods' and 'Big End' could be at fault.

I finally got it recovered today to the original place I took it for it's dyno run. The car still runs but obviously there is a loud clicking sound, which coincidently has got louder now after starting the engine a few more times since the problem began.

As soon as the guy turned the engine on, he turned it straight off and told me that either the PISTON/PISTON RODS had gone or the BIG END had gone.
He then told me the cheapest and maybe quickest way of solving the problem is to REPLACE MY ENGINE!!!!

Now I can't and don't blame the dyno guys one bit as the car reliability is 100% down to me and you sign a waiver of liability before they run the tests on your car to cover themselves for any damage incurred.

He has told me a rough estimate of £3000 it would cost to purchase a 2nd hand engine and fit it.

From what he suggests, it sounds like he wants me to pay £3000 to get my car running back to it was last week!!

Is replacing the engine the only option if Piston/pistons rods or big end has gone - when I say gone, this is the word the mechanic used, as in f**ked!
(not sure on the technical term? maybe broken...)

How do i know the big end or piston is broken??

Is my only option a like for like engine replacement or can I stick a bigger/newer engine in my scooby, at least so I get something more for my money?

Does a 2nd hand engine replacement fully fitted cost around £3000 for this type of car??

Any ideas on where to get a decent cheap 2nd hand engine?

Any ideas on a decent cheap place to get it fitted? I'm in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire


Any and all information is appreciated, look forward to speaking to you guys soon!!




Matt
Old 30 June 2009, 10:26 AM
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speak to david at api or allan or martin at engine tuner mate they will put you on the right track

to rebuild your engine could cost between £1600 and £3000
or you could get a recon lump or salvage lump around £900 but who knows when that would go

When mine goes mines going to engine tuner for a 2.1 stroker kit drive in drive out for approx £4k everything upgraded more or less and 350to 400 bhp depending on turbos and supporting mods
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Originally Posted by mattlfbuk
Hi guys,

I really need some help.

I've had my Subaru Impreza STi 6 (Import) for just under a year now. Bought it with 59000 miles on the clock and was told it was running apprx 340 bhp.

After buying the car, I got it fully serviced (all oils changed including diff, gear etc).

I've only put about 2000 miles on the car and feel that I look after it quite well (thoroughly warm her up before boosting off, letting her cool properly (turbo timer), not thrashing for longing than about 1 min etc)

Reluctantly I recently put my car up for sale as my insurance is due for renewal next month (cheaper to drive my company car - free!- not as fun though :-(

After 2 days of it being up for sale on the internet, I thought I'd take it for a dyno run (rolling road) test and see what she can do, before I sell her....

This was to be my downfall!

Both runs on the dyno went perfect, well, if your car is supposed to sound like it's about to blow up then these guys done a great job! lol

The car was running 354.1 bhp at the engine and just over 300 Ib torque!
Excellent news!

Left the garage and drove apprx 5 miles home and nearing my destination, I heard a tapping/clicking sound from my engine. opened the bonnet and listened. It is/was a not so loud tapping sound that followed the revs - ie. if i put foot on the gas, the clicking gets faster and louder, it follows the rev sound.

After speaking to a few friends (not reallly car enthusiasts) I'd heard terms like 'Main bearings', 'Piston Rods' and 'Big End' could be at fault.

I finally got it recovered today to the original place I took it for it's dyno run. The car still runs but obviously there is a loud clicking sound, which coincidently has got louder now after starting the engine a few more times since the problem began.

As soon as the guy turned the engine on, he turned it straight off and told me that either the PISTON/PISTON RODS had gone or the BIG END had gone.
He then told me the cheapest and maybe quickest way of solving the problem is to REPLACE MY ENGINE!!!!

Now I can't and don't blame the dyno guys one bit as the car reliability is 100% down to me and you sign a waiver of liability before they run the tests on your car to cover themselves for any damage incurred.

He has told me a rough estimate of £3000 it would cost to purchase a 2nd hand engine and fit it.

From what he suggests, it sounds like he wants me to pay £3000 to get my car running back to it was last week!!

Is replacing the engine the only option if Piston/pistons rods or big end has gone - when I say gone, this is the word the mechanic used, as in f**ked!
(not sure on the technical term? maybe broken...)

How do i know the big end or piston is broken??

Is my only option a like for like engine replacement or can I stick a bigger/newer engine in my scooby, at least so I get something more for my money?

Does a 2nd hand engine replacement fully fitted cost around £3000 for this type of car??

Any ideas on where to get a decent cheap 2nd hand engine?

Any ideas on a decent cheap place to get it fitted? I'm in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire


Any and all information is appreciated, look forward to speaking to you guys soon!!




Matt
Tough luck mate,

3 grand will get a fully recon engine built and fitted here. Nowhere near that much for a dubious secondhand lump.

Call me for options if you wish.

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Been quoted £2700 to re-build engine at what seems to be highly reputable subaru 'specialist' up north, also advised on the re-build route as 2nd hand ones have no guarantee's and apparently after a re-build, you have a pretty much new engine?

Is that right? The engine will be, sort of as it was coming out the factory?
As if it's got 0 miles on it??

I havn't agreed to any work as of yet, going to get few different quotes, any recommendations?
Can anyone think of a better way to spend nearly £3000? (on the car, no trips to dam now guys! although........)

Can i not get some super duper upgraded type of engine for that type of money, or is that me being stupid?
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Or if really neccesary spend ever so slightly more and get a better, newer and more powerful engine???
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you prob best off speaking to api ask about a 2.5 conversion
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expecting a call back from them any minute now
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