Roger.m.

why is a panel filter better than an induction kit on cars below 250- 260bhp

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

because a panel filter is sheilded from the engine heat whereas an induction kit just sucks hot air and also goes someway towards knackering your MAF LD

wrighty338

iTrader: (33)

what he said^ same applies to every car really..heat soak isnt good.

when you fit a fmic, youve gotta get an induction kit for it all to fit...but the charge created is going to get cooled before it gets to the engine.

cooler the charge temp, the better

Roger.m.

mines got a carbon filter on i can get my fist up it. its opposite the pipe that comes out of the wing should i join them with some kind of piping

wrighty338

iTrader: (33)

yeah, but if its the standard thing id take it out, and put some sort of pipe into the wing + join it...so its only gets cool air

cold air induction

Roger.m.

where does the pipe in the wing go to.i could get some aluminium duct from b&q to join them.

JonMc

iTrader: (51)

What you need is a cold air feed, mine comes from where the front fog light was...



I run the feed direct into the air filter, no resonator box left in the wing, and I've also modified the factory feed to privide more air...







I've also fitted an SPT heatshield which you might just be able to make out...

GlesgaKiss

What you want is a box that the air flows through which shields heat. That's what the standard air box does. But obviously the induction kits that sit in the wing will be better still.

Another option is just buying a regular induction kit, building a box around it in the engine bay from heatproof material, and then running a cold air feed from the wing etc straight into the box with a seal.

Having a cone sitting open in the engine bay is a bit of a backwards step to be honest.

Roger.m.

mines not a cone its inside a carbon cylinder with an open end of about 4inches where the air goes in. i can join this easily to the plastic pipe that comes from inside the wing.

Stealth

iTrader: (4)

Because the airbox isn't being restrictive at these low powers and an induction kit is a waste of money.... As well as the heat soak issue

Roger.m.

cheers for the comments guys.so would i be better joining mine to the original pipe that comes up from inside the wing then hot air cant be directly sucked in cos it would be sealed.not sure where pipe in wing goes to though.

JonMc

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Roger.m.

heres a few pics of it. as you can see the pipe in the wing is opposaite the air intake shouild i join them?

JonMc

iTrader: (51)

You can either get a pipe that just connects the 2 together, or possibly easier, is remove the box in the wing and run a hose from the induction kit down to the front of the car and draw air in from there

Roger.m.

cheers

Roger.m.

does anyone know what make this is ? it was on the car when i bought it.

chrisUK300

iTrader: (10)

Looks like a Pipercross Viper

radboy69

yeah had one one my 206, sound nice under acceleration