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Old 17 March 2009, 08:32 PM
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What pumps do people use for lifting fuel to the swirl pot?

By my reckoning you need one with a greater flow than the walbro 255lt but by how much?????

Any help would be great


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Old 17 March 2009, 08:56 PM
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Just found this beaut.

https://secure.demonweb.co.uk/earls1...5e38cbc71991b9

Need something to help the surge around Cadwell

Managed a 1.49 with a fare bit of surge. Grrrrrrr
Old 17 March 2009, 09:45 PM
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I've got one of these...






This is not the Bosh 044, rather the monster that pumps at 10 bar! Should do the job

Thanks to Harvey for supplying.

Currently getting parts together my my external setup.
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
I've got one of these...






This is not the Bosh 044, rather the monster that pumps at 10 bar! Should do the job

Thanks to Harvey for supplying.

Currently getting parts together my my external setup.
I want flow rate not pressure as its only to fill the swirl pot........
Old 17 March 2009, 10:03 PM
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What is a swirl pot anyway?
Old 17 March 2009, 10:06 PM
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Old 17 March 2009, 10:23 PM
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Aplogies, I read your first post wrong..

I currently have and will keep my Walbro 255 fuel pump in tank to lift the fuel to the pot.
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Why would you need anything other than a walbro or similar to act as a lift pump, for most applications???

I use the standard Spec C in tank pump (virtually the same as a Walbro) to supply a 044 external Bosch and Swirl Pot. This provides AMPLE fuel to 4 x 1150cc Injectors, which are only being tickled for it's current 500+bhp output.
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
Aplogies, I read your first post wrong..

I currently have and will keep my Walbro 255 fuel pump in tank to lift the fuel to the pot.
Im planning on fitting the walbro into the swirl pot
Old 17 March 2009, 10:31 PM
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Pray tell what fitting a Walbro in to the swirl pot will achieve??
Old 17 March 2009, 10:36 PM
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Proper Job Now I knows!
Old 17 March 2009, 10:38 PM
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No fuel surge,

I thought you wouldnt want to use a high pressure pump to feed a swirl pot when a low pressure high flow would be best.
Old 17 March 2009, 10:43 PM
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Wrong way round mate... low pressure is to swirl pot, feed to injector rail is high pressure and needs the pump with the guts!

Mmmm... as regards to the fuel surge, I would of thought that a separate swirl pot and high pressure pump would be much more effecient. I know a few OEM set-ups have the combined pump and pot, but perhaps there lies the answer. I would suspect it is cheaper and certainly not meant for the rigours of track conditions?
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Sorry..... got confused reading your previous post, so maybe ignore the first portion of my reply above.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Wrong way round mate... low pressure is to swirl pot, feed to injector rail is high pressure and needs the pump with the guts!

Mmmm... as regards to the fuel surge, I would of thought that a separate swirl pot and high pressure pump would be much more effecient. I know a few OEM set-ups have the combined pump and pot, but perhaps there lies the answer. I would suspect it is cheaper and certainly not meant for the rigours of track conditions?

You have totally misunderstood

low pressure high flow to fill the swirl pot, then the walbro fitted in the swirl pot to feed the injectors.
AFAIK there is nothing in the rule book to say you cant fit the injector pump into the swirl pot, it makes sense in terms of packaging to me.
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Shaun is talking sense.

Std Walbro in tank to feed the swirl pot, then a proper pump (external to the swirl pot) to feed the rails. I have an 044 that does that job for me.

I regularly run to below the empty light on track now and not a sign of surge.
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Anybody know how much a decent swirl pot costs?

And recommend a good one...
Old 18 March 2009, 08:34 AM
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Alloy Fuel Surge Tank - Quality aluminium fuel swirl pot.

Works for me
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