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hi

when i remap my uk turbo my99 to 280bhp would it be about the same performance as the uk sti . was just wondering if anyone has any info on this

thanks

99greenwagon

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depends what torque figure u get!

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whats good and whats bad then

99greenwagon

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280lbft would be nice,200lb ft,not as nice!

Slowboy Racing

STI will be lighter, have a beter cam, turbo, head combo etc etc. Like for like on boost.

In a word No

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is it actually worth the cost then , whats your apinion . i dont no as only driven standard ones before.

99greenwagon

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my 99 uk turbowagon has 240bhp with 280lbft and i can keep with 03 uksti standard.,now wait for everyone to shoot me down.

stigaz

what mods have you done to get 280 after a remap?

s c o o b y

i use two no a couple of lads one had a 96 reg uk turbo remapped and the other had a classic type ra and they both said they thought the 96 turbo was quicker.

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full decat and filter . not had it done yet just what i been told

99greenwagon

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ninja sports cat downpipe,magnex mid section,h&s backbox,sti 5 tmic,mapped by martyn at engine tuner with ecutek 3,running on standard td04 mate.

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how come you only got 240bhp with a remap ?

BLACK V5

How would a uk sti be lighter than than a classic turbo? Your talking bugeye onwards for a uk sti.. And all impreza`s since then have just got more and more heavy.

99greenwagon

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i agree, they r gettin heavier,and the reason i only got 240 bhp,was down to half worn plugs,dodgy knock sensor,and my td04 that had done 135k!,looking to put on vf35 with walbro 2 sort it!

pat

One COULD argue that a P1 was a UK STI

99greenwagon

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how is that relevant?

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well the newage arnt as quick with 280 bhp, the classics are lighter oh and the best

pat

Perhaps I didn't word that right...

At the time that the OP's car was on sale in the UK, there was also another Impreza on sale, which featured an STi engine, it was called a P1. Although a lot of stuff was removed from the STi V Type R to turn it into a P1, it is still technically an STi, and so one could argue that there WAS a classic STi Type UK.

If you want to be ultra pedantic you could also assert that the 22B Type UK cars were also official UK classic STi cars....

Up against either, a UK Turbo 2000 pushing 280 would have a hard time, and against a mapped P1 or 22B, little chance.

99greenwagon

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fair comment but there is some seriously quick uk turbos about!all depends on mods etc,back to the original question,i personally think that a 280/280 uk classic turbo will be good for matching if not bettering a standard newage uk sti!

Slowboy Racing

As said in my post like for like, this would assume two classics in this instance.

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just to set the record how much heavier is the new age than a classic does anyone actually no the figures

thanks for the info guys

joz8968

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I think what BLACK V5 is saying is that - BY DEFINITION - the only UK "STi" is from the New Age Bugeye onwards (therefore heavier, etc.). The OP has caused a bit of confusion by mentioning "UK STi" of which, officially, there was NO such badged Classic.

But as Pat says, unofficially, one could regard the 22B Type UK and P1 as the UK's Classic 'STi's'...

joz8968

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Assumimg we're just concentrating a 4-door saloons, then:-

UK/Eur Bugeye v.7/Blobeye v.8 WRX - 1385kg dry
UK/Eur Bugeye v.7/Blobeye v.8 STi - 1470kg dry

Your UK car is 1235kg dry, so is a whopping 160kg lighter than the New Age WRX (like carrying two 12.5st blokes around in your car!)... And a positively gargantuan 235kg less than the STi (three blokes!!! lol).

(add about 20kg for all fluids)

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what about the classic is that 1385

thanks

joz8968

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(Still talking saloons only...)

No. Your Classic UK car is 1235kg dry.

The heaviest Jap Classics topped out at 'only' 1300kg dry (MY99/00 v.5/6 4-door STi). The lightest ever Classic was the MY93 first Jap WRX Type RA at a paltry 1170kg dry.

The UK New Age cars kicked off at 1385kg dry (WRX v.7).

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thanks for that bud . hope the cars good when it comes back from zen thats who will be doing my remap when the old girl comes out on the 1st of may. cant wait !!!!! i just bring her out in the summer.

TonyBurns

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Oh here we go again with the "classic is faster than newage" debate so i shall end it now

1. a UK car with 280bhp WONT be as quick as a new age STI with similar power due to GEAR RATIO's.

2. The quickest production car that subaru have produced is a new age car, it was 2 SECONDS quicker than its replacement to 100mph with a similar p2w ratio.

3. You cannot compare a 280bhp car against a 265bhp car

Tony

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yes but you put the same engine and box in a classic and it still will be quicker hence the weight lol. only kidding just was wondering that was all bud .

TonyBurns

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Those 6 speeders add about 70kg to the weight of a classic you know?

ZEN Performance

30kg