P1093 -- Tumble generator valve #2 (LH) malfunction (stuck close)
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P1093 -- Tumble generator valve #2 (LH) malfunction (stuck close)
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on my way to work last night i goit the following code
P1093 -- Tumble generator valve #2 (LH) malfunction (stuck close)
car is a 2003 wrx
car seems to have went into limp mode as only boosts to 0.5 bar now, does anyone know what the above code means and more importantly how to fix it?
Cheers all.
on my way to work last night i goit the following code
P1093 -- Tumble generator valve #2 (LH) malfunction (stuck close)
car is a 2003 wrx
car seems to have went into limp mode as only boosts to 0.5 bar now, does anyone know what the above code means and more importantly how to fix it?
Cheers all.
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Stuart,
Where the inlet manifold bolts to the cyl heads, there is a sandwich plate in between the two items. Contained within each of these are a spindle & 2 butterfly valves (1 valve per cyl).... your code is telling you that the LH (ie passenger side) butterfly's are stuck in the shut position.
The trick is going to be trying to find out the reason for the fault:
1: It could be a wiring fault, but this is highly unlikely, as Subaru's don't generally suffer from such problems unless someone has tampered with the factory wiring at some point... Also, there are codes available to the ecu for such failures.
2: They could just be stuck, due to carbon or general grime.
3: The potentiometer, bolted to the front of the Tumble Valve assay (facing the radiator) has failed and is giving a permanent "valve closed" signal.
Phil
Where the inlet manifold bolts to the cyl heads, there is a sandwich plate in between the two items. Contained within each of these are a spindle & 2 butterfly valves (1 valve per cyl).... your code is telling you that the LH (ie passenger side) butterfly's are stuck in the shut position.
The trick is going to be trying to find out the reason for the fault:
1: It could be a wiring fault, but this is highly unlikely, as Subaru's don't generally suffer from such problems unless someone has tampered with the factory wiring at some point... Also, there are codes available to the ecu for such failures.
2: They could just be stuck, due to carbon or general grime.
3: The potentiometer, bolted to the front of the Tumble Valve assay (facing the radiator) has failed and is giving a permanent "valve closed" signal.
Phil
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cheers for the reply
its funny now i cleared the code and it came back on, this time stating
p1092 which is the valve stuck open, so i think it maybe the second option a build up of grime and crap making it stick. So i think its going to have to go in for a little tlc.
stu
its funny now i cleared the code and it came back on, this time stating
p1092 which is the valve stuck open, so i think it maybe the second option a build up of grime and crap making it stick. So i think its going to have to go in for a little tlc.
stu
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hi again
took the tumble valve solinoid off today and think it may be this as the valve was easy to turn by hand and sprung back without sticking when the solinoid was removed. Is there any way of checking if the solinoid is faulty, would connecting the 2 green plugs in diagnostic mode make the solinoid open and shut?
cheers for your help
im not too bad mechanically so maybe...
took the tumble valve solinoid off today and think it may be this as the valve was easy to turn by hand and sprung back without sticking when the solinoid was removed. Is there any way of checking if the solinoid is faulty, would connecting the 2 green plugs in diagnostic mode make the solinoid open and shut?
cheers for your help
im not too bad mechanically so maybe...
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I have never tried connecting the 2 green connectors to see if it cycles the valves, but you could try.
Have you still got the tumble solonoid removed? if so, you could plug it in & watch the motor drive whilst someone turns on the ign. at this point I believe the ECU will spend a couple of seconds trying to set the tumble valves to a preset position so you should see the motor turn... unless of course it's looking for a closed signal in which case you could manually turn the tumble valves to half open & try switching IGN on again.
If you get no movement of the motor, then it is knackered... If the motor does move then the sensor is your problem.
There is always an outside chance of course that the valves WERE stuck & you have now disturbed them and corrected the fault without knowing.
Have you still got the tumble solonoid removed? if so, you could plug it in & watch the motor drive whilst someone turns on the ign. at this point I believe the ECU will spend a couple of seconds trying to set the tumble valves to a preset position so you should see the motor turn... unless of course it's looking for a closed signal in which case you could manually turn the tumble valves to half open & try switching IGN on again.
If you get no movement of the motor, then it is knackered... If the motor does move then the sensor is your problem.
There is always an outside chance of course that the valves WERE stuck & you have now disturbed them and corrected the fault without knowing.
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hi cheers for the info again
i will try again on friday, the cel code reappeared after i reset it so the problem is still there. So i will try again, i would have turned over today but had to take intercooler off to get to it so couldnt turn ign over to test
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i will try again on friday, the cel code reappeared after i reset it so the problem is still there. So i will try again, i would have turned over today but had to take intercooler off to get to it so couldnt turn ign over to test
cheers
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Reset cel code and no more cel light, sorted, so as you stated i must have freed the valvle off the other day when i removed the solenoid and i now remember when i first checked front sensor it sprung when i removed it so i refitted it in wrong postion the other day.
Got there in the end and cheers for your help.
stu
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