TYPE R BRAD

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as above, i have brought autobahn fmic and want some advise,needs to be around nottm area. i always take my type r to carnetix who are second to none but they admit they only done a couple of these. should i stay with them for this one,quoted around 8 hours + remap with richard bulmer,what should i be looking at for that as already paid ecutek fee??

MaDaSS

You wont get much discount for the remap, been there done that, moved on.
Can't fault the skills of that bunch though.
You also have scoobymania in Nottm. Area 52 Autosport On-line shop
Directions on the webby.
You also have TSL if you want. I am not sure who they use to map now though as Richard left.
I don't think you can go wrong with Carnetix.
I just use RCM now for everything. Bob Rawle for my mapping.
I wont use TSL as Graham's a p**ck.

harvey

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Is this Classic or New Age.
We can fit your FMIC for a fixed £180 inclusive of sundries, you supply the induction kit, we can fit. All same day. Darlington. Arrive 08:30/09:00 depart around 15:00.

TYPE R BRAD

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thanks alot guys,
harvey- who does your mapping up there for you.
yes i agree that graham tsl is a p*ic*.

joz8968

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Harvey, now you've got me interested! LOL

£180 all in to fit a supplied FMIC and induction kit! Wow, I thought it would be a lot more expensive than that!

I have a 1993 WRX - what's the best FMIC for it? It's the Autobahn isn't it? The Hybrid isn't available for the 92-96 cars, is it? Does this make the Autobahn the default best option then?

What is the best CAI to use on the 92-96 cars?

Can you quote for the Autobahn (or Hybrid, if available), best CAI kit, and fitting... all supplied/carried out by you?

If I was to get a FMIC fitted, then presumably I shouldn't use boost UNTIL AFTER I get a remap on my PFC, yes?

harvey

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Mapping on my own cars, I generally do myself although Steve Simpson was here last week and we mapped all the way to and from Newcastle as we had to go there anyway. All good fun.

Some mapping, particularly Ecutek is done by Bob Rawle who visits every couple of months for a week-end. Bob also fits Simtek, ESL, Link, etc.

Simtek, Apexi, Gems, Autronic, AEM, DTA and odd others are usually done on the rollers by Steve Simpson and we take the cars over to him at TEG Sport, Warton near Carnforth, just off the M6, South Cumbria/North Lancs.

Having recently bought the latest Autobahn to examine, they are an inferior product to the Hybrid and I do not sell them. We have fitted a couple but would rather fit Hybrid. I posted photographs on here showing the differences, particularly with the core internals between the Hybrid and Autobahn. The Hybrid has less pressure drop than the Autobahn on the published figures alone.

To fit a Hybrid to a 93-96 WRX/STi is not a problem but we use an additional joiner and two clips (cost £13) to articulate the pipe in the area of the screen wash bottle. The cost of the GT Hybrid kit today is £295 with extras including a silicon joiner for the BOV connection.
The fitting charge is £180 and includes minor consumables so in most cases it is a fixed charge. (plus the £13 referred to above) You are responsible for supplying a suitable dump valve although on a 93-96 car we can reuse your O/E item and you are responsible for supplying a suitable air filter system. I would recommend the largest K+N cone you can fit in the space available. At a later stage you can look at a cold air feed or better still a cold air divider.

As the £ has dropped like a stone against the $ the price for kits is currently under review. We enjoyed 1.95 exchange rate early summer and this has dropped to 1.798 September. 1.5339 28 October,1.5842 29 October, 1.547 11 November and 1.4604 on a transaction at 08:00 this morning. As fresh stock works into the system there will be considerable price increases ahead for everyone, not just in car parts but food and basic living essentials for anything paid for in dollars.

Interesting times.

harvey

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After fitting the FMIC you should run with very light right foot until the car is remapped.
We could make up an inner wing mounted filter, much larger than used by APS etc and the cost of this inclusive of pipework, filter and fitting would be £175. A cone filter in the engine bay would be cheaper but you then breath warm engine bay air which is best avoided.

joz8968

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Cheers harvey.

(Yeah, tell me about the $ to £ - I get an email update on it every day lol)

Yes I have the std re-circ dv, albeit the Forge all-metal OEM pattern one.

So...

- £295 GT Hybrid + £13 v.1/2 adaptor kit + c. £180 fitting...

- £175 inner wing CAI kit inc. fitting

- TOTAL: c. £663 ?

Would this be correct? Could you supply and fit both the FMIC and the inner wing CAI kit all in one day?

Also, I have some ultrasonically cleaned 440s waiting to go on, (which I'd fit beforehand)... But, presumably, I'd HAVE to fit them regardless, if I was to have a FMIC?

harvey

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You don't need 440s just because you fit an FMIC but you need the 440s to get the best out your package and before the car is mapped.
Joz. Please confirm your turbo and full spec.
Your arithmetic is correct and if you add £30 we will fit your 440cc injectors too but after that the car has to be run gently for a fairly early remap.
A straight forward fitting of FMIC is a day, even when we hit snags but adding the CAK requires bespoke work and it would be unreliable to rely on it all being completed same day so we would want two days to cover the unforseen if we are waiting for a joiner or something over night. There is also the facility to look at anything else you need doing/sorting during the visit.
Remember we are on the main East Coast railway line.

joz8968

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Cheers harvey.

Turbo is OEM TD05-16G. For everything else so far fitted, etc., check out 'View My Scooby'...

Are you saying that after everything is fitted, then the car will HAVE to be mapped before I leave your premises i.e. just too risky to rely on driving it off boost prior to the remap?

So, with the inclusion of the 440s and everything else, what sort of bhp figure would we be seeing? I'm thinking c.320-330bhp... with the turbo being the 'weak link', yes?

Jolly Green Monster

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Since feb this year I have done it

Simon

Jolly Green Monster

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Driving off boost it will be fine

joz8968

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Cheers Simon, I thought that would be the case (means you can do the mapping, as I'm more than happy with your 1st map lol).

Also, I've got the Commander and CEL to monitor things anyhow.

Simon, after fitting the 440s (and before the remap), would I need to rescale them to 86.5% (380 / 440) on the Commander, to keep the A/F correct... Or is it 'correct'/safer to run them at 100% because of the FMIC. (Obviously you'd sort all that properly on remap day, anyway).

harvey

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I am not saying that at all but what I am saying is that you don't want to leave it for three or four weeks before you see Simon. Get there in minimum mileage ie. several hundred miles not a couple of thousand.
I would guess that with the Apexi on a 93 car with your mods, 320 bhp is very achievable but it will depend on the condition of the engine generally and the existing modifications. The TD05 16G can do 340 bhp and in exceptional circumstances probably more than 350 bhp but there again it can depend on which rolling road you use.
If we do the work for you we can get your fuellihg approximately in the right ballpark before you depart but you must drive gently until it is remapped ie. nothing more than the mildest bit of boost on light throttle and no high revs. Say 4.5K max rev limit. That way you preserve your engine until the mapping is done properly.

joz8968

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Cheers harvey, yeah that obviously would be the plan: get it fitted by you, then drive gently back to Leic. I'd prob. will have already booked JGM a few days later anyway for the remap, rather than weeks, so no probs there.

You don't have to worry about me looking after the engine; I'd only use 0.0bar boost (i.e. atmo) and keep revs to c.3k and not accelerate hard anyway - I HATE spending huge wads of cash on 'human-preventable' failures.

harvey

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A man after my own heart !!!

eggy790

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reading this thread has made me want one from harvey! top price!

harvey

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Yes but unfortunately the price is going up.
I have lost the edit function.
What has happened here?

joz8968

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I've seen (or not seen lol) the 'lost' edit thing on another forum recently... Really annoying when this - or any other feature - is lost.

I'm sure it's just a website glitch and will be rectified soon ...... or, more likely, much later

joz8968

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Doh! I's working! Well, in my post box it's there at least - I know I won't be able to see 'Edit' on anyone else's - so Harvey, check again...

joz8968

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No. There's defo something up. Only get edit option on the last of my posts and if a minute has elapsed, and you go to edit, a message pops saying as such and to contact Administrator WTF...

New_scooby_04

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We're aware of the bug guys!

RB5Caterham

I've been up to see Harvey to have a Hybrid fitted last year. Darren did a great job on fitting and was very professional.

Drove carefully for a month or two before I had the funds to get remapped with Bob Rawle. Having said that I'd already had a TEK3 before but didnt want to take any chances and driving hard with the FMIC not mapped.

harvey

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Cheers Sanjay mate. I hope all is well with you.
We have fitted so many of these now and the GDB ones that Darren has it off to a fine art and for a fixed £180 fitted that has to be value for money.

360ste

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Harvey, Last Tuesday I visited Steve Simpson to get my OE ECU re-flashed as abackup for the GEMS I normally run and for MOT time. When Steve interigated the ECU we found that at idle the Lambda readings were off due to the turbulent air from the induction kit through the MAF sensor. Have you experienced this and do you think using a length of wired SFS or SAMCO 76mm pipe used to locate the filter in the inner wing would resolve the issue?
Thanks for your input Steve

harvey

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Send a photo of the current induction to harveysmith1@btopenworld.com and will have a look at it. No idea what it is from your description but just an APS CAK can play havoc with MAF sensor readings.

360ste

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Will try to get a photo tomorrow. Basically I used a ripspeed filter from Halfords on the end of the MAF housing as the K&N I use on the GEMS would not fit. Steve said that the turbulenec from the airfilter was causing low air speed through the MAF thus giving the wrong signal. My thought isthat by moving the airfilter into the inner wing like a CAIK but with a longer pipe would give the air chance to stabalise before reaching the MAF.
Does this seem a viable option or am I barking up the wrong tree.

Thanks Steve.

harvey

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From what I have found out, I like to keep the induction tract as short as possible and straight.
On the GEMS, can it run without the MAF ie. MAP ?
I look forward to a photo and will be happy to make suggestions and may even have the bits you need here

360ste

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When running the GEMs it runs using the MAP sensor, but the OE ECU has to run the MAF, so I am having to make a easy to fit and remove setup for when I need to swap the ECU as required. Stve said that the OE resonator had a number of baffles inside to help smooth the air. So tomorrow I am seeing if I can make a 3 inch diameter pipe with internal baffles so fingers crossed.

harvey

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The resonator does not have baffles. It is like a big bladder. There may be a spare one here if you want it and pay the postage. Because of its design the resonator does smooth out air flow.
Send me the photos and I may have a solution.