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Old 07 July 2008, 12:00 PM
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What is the revlimit on the STI V5/6 heads?
I set my limit to 7500, but heared that they normally rev to 8200rpm?!?
Would be great if I could use the rpm up to 8000 as my turbo would push enough air, no problem!
Old 07 July 2008, 05:22 PM
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The red line starts at 7900rpm, with the rev limit around 8250rpm. (on a 2 litre)
Old 07 July 2008, 05:55 PM
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That´s good news, so the heads should flow enough air for a big power build with a revlimit of 8000, isn´t it?!
Would look for about 450-500bhp and the heads should be able to flow without failure up to 8k!
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any advice please!
Old 08 July 2008, 08:07 PM
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That sounds like what I've heard too. I have a similar problem in that I'm fitting STi3/4 heads and need to know what they'll rev to.
Old 08 July 2008, 08:52 PM
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I rev my car to 7900rpm on sti 3 heads no problem, they can rev to 8250 as that is what the standard rev limit is set to.

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Old 09 July 2008, 05:44 PM
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So are I´m right to say that the V5/6 heads will take a max of 7900 too?!
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On the P1 engine (STi 5) maximum power occurs at 6,500rpm using 100RON fuel and the maximum torque is at 4000rpm.
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That's what I was wondering, even though you can rev it to 8 grand, is there any power to be had on STi3/4 heads up there, or is it just headroom so you can drop back in at 6500 after an upchange?
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No matter where the maximum power occurs, due to turbochange or other enginevitals you would reach this point even lower or higher in the revs.
Just need to know if the heads can take a maximum of 8000rpm with a big turbo, or if they are going to be stressed or damaged...
Old 09 July 2008, 08:26 PM
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I was running standard V5 STI heads on a 2.5L with Rotated GT30R with rev limit set at 8K. With the six speed box it "hit the limiter" plenty of times without any problems whatsoever.
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Hi Daz!
Many thanks for your answer that´s what I wanted to hear!
All the best from Vienna!
Markus
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
No matter where the maximum power occurs, due to turbochange or other enginevitals you would reach this point even lower or higher in the revs.
Just need to know if the heads can take a maximum of 8000rpm with a big turbo, or if they are going to be stressed or damaged...
If you are planning on running RPM most of the time, then IMHO i would upgrade the Valves to Stainless Steel Inlets and Inconel Exhausts - the standard exhaust valves are hollow Sodium Filled to aid heat transfer/dissipation and it is not unknown for them to separate/fail.

Mick
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Thanks for this information, too!
I would only rev to 8k on the dragstrip a couple of times a year, otherwise I wont push it that far anyways.
So hopefully they will be okay for some time!
Later on if they fail I might swap over to better valves and porting, too!
Old 10 July 2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Austrian Impreza
Thanks for this information, too!
I would only rev to 8k on the dragstrip a couple of times a year, otherwise I wont push it that far anyways.
So hopefully they will be okay for some time!
Later on if they fail I might swap over to better valves and porting, too!
Drag strip!!!! are you planning to build some monster then Markus

Do you get involved in the streetcar cup or is that only the swiss guys?

Cheers
Steve
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Hi Steve,
I do not drive at the Slalomcup, that´s too far away from Vienna!
But we have some Trackdays and other events too, but my first obsession is the quartermile that´s for sure!
Hopefully I can tell you good news after this weekend, until now my car did not work as it should due to boostproblems!
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I am also very interested in this subject!
I have a forester sti with a forged 2.5 (with high 8.9:1 compresion)
And MD321t+ @1.6bar and getting 14mm head studs at the moment,
I'm using my standard AVCS sti heads,
As Above, As far as I know, they ae the same heads as the Ej20 which revs to 8,000rpm, SO I don't see how that is a problem,
Does power or torque output or high boost or the fact that she is a 2.5 have any negative affect on standard valves??
Really appreciate any feed back!
Thanks
Dan
Old 11 July 2009, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Forester sti
I am also very interested in this subject!
I have a forester sti with a forged 2.5 (with high 8.9:1 compresion)
And MD321t+ @1.6bar and getting 14mm head studs at the moment,
I'm using my standard AVCS sti heads,
As Above, As far as I know, they ae the same heads as the Ej20 which revs to 8,000rpm, SO I don't see how that is a problem,
Does power or torque output or high boost or the fact that she is a 2.5 have any negative affect on standard valves??
Really appreciate any feed back!
Thanks
Dan
Sorry to hi-jack but how do you find the 8.9:1 CR on the 2.5; I'm presuming 1.6bar is the max boost the mapper found safe due to the CR? What sort of power and torque figures do you manage from that ?

Stu
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Nothing but trouble to be honest! that's what I get for trying to be different!
The high compression coupled with the big boost on the big turbo seems to be lifting the heads (Panting) I think it's called, same symtoms as head gasket failure,I had 11mm apr studs before, and I'm going for 14mm WRC studs now to sort the problem!
In theory, she should be a very responsive torque monster, but she has never run right just yet! so far with heads lifting se made 415bhp @5800rpm, 450lb/ft @3550rpm but (seemingly) the ecu was pulling timing due to charge temps, the rolling road didn't have a fan for the top mount intercooler!
I'll hae her back together in the next few weeks,
I'll let you know how I get on!
If I was doing it again, I would defo go for standard CR with top mount and water/met for response! tried and tested,
Hope this helps
Dan

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