detonation after rebuild
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detonation after rebuild
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just after a bit of advice, i bought a turbo 2000 with a fooked head gasket, i stripped the engine and sent both heads off for a light skim, when i collected the heads i was told they were both badly warped and had to have 10 thou skimmed off both, i rebuilt the engine using all genuine Subaru gaskets and ran it in for 100 miles.
So tonight thought right time to give it some beans and test it out, the car pulls strong through all the gears but under hard acceleration between 4500-6000 rpm i am getting slight pinking, apart from that everything seems fine the car is standard apart from the exhaust but according to the boost gauge its boosting to 1.2 bar, i don't have any other history for the car so not sure if someone has been messing with it or had a remap
any help would be appreciated as to why it may be pinking
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just after a bit of advice, i bought a turbo 2000 with a fooked head gasket, i stripped the engine and sent both heads off for a light skim, when i collected the heads i was told they were both badly warped and had to have 10 thou skimmed off both, i rebuilt the engine using all genuine Subaru gaskets and ran it in for 100 miles.
So tonight thought right time to give it some beans and test it out, the car pulls strong through all the gears but under hard acceleration between 4500-6000 rpm i am getting slight pinking, apart from that everything seems fine the car is standard apart from the exhaust but according to the boost gauge its boosting to 1.2 bar, i don't have any other history for the car so not sure if someone has been messing with it or had a remap
any help would be appreciated as to why it may be pinking
Thanks
Jim
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hi skimming the heads reduces the compresion ratio. turbo charged engines need a low compression ratio so that the turbo can force more air/fuel in giving more power. i would think that you may have to change the head gaskets for thicker ones thus lowering the compression ratio. i would be very carefull in running the car with detonation this can kill engines faster than bush can kill iraqs
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yes i know how quick it will die if its detonating had one go on me before, just not convinced its to do with the skim, was hoping someone else had a similar prob after a rebuild
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i don't know but you have just rebuilt it maybe you missed a vac hose or maybe crossed 2 over. just have a good check over. A small split in the actuator vac hose can cause real problems with overboost or any vac hose for that matter
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Yea probs something to do with the overboosting caused by mixed up vac hoses, splits, missing restrictor....suprised you havent hit the fuel cut though when its reaching 1.2BAR
1.2 BAR from that poor little TD04 will just be hot air I would have thought and too much of it for the fuel system to cope with too.....would fit in with the rev range your seeing the Knock at too.
1.2 BAR from that poor little TD04 will just be hot air I would have thought and too much of it for the fuel system to cope with too.....would fit in with the rev range your seeing the Knock at too.
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Yea probs something to do with the overboosting caused by mixed up vac hoses, splits, missing restrictor....suprised you havent hit the fuel cut though when its reaching 1.2BAR
1.2 BAR from that poor little TD04 will just be hot air I would have thought and too much of it for the fuel system to cope with too.....would fit in with the rev range your seeing the Knock at too.
1.2 BAR from that poor little TD04 will just be hot air I would have thought and too much of it for the fuel system to cope with too.....would fit in with the rev range your seeing the Knock at too.
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no its all standard but i can fit a bleed valve to turn it down to see if that works
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just had another thought to adjust the boost would slackening wastegate rod lower the boost ?, also does a 99 turbo 2000 have the adjustable rod ?
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I would be more focused on the excess boost coupled with maybe a mixture problem. If your pipe work is correct & your sensors are all ok then more boost should not make it det, the system should cope with it.
Another thing to consider is that the battery was probably disconnected & the Ecu has been reset, so the ign curves will be advanced. Did you just hear the det once or does it re occur. In theory your Ecu should be listening for det and should retard Ign until the det stops. If det is bad then you end up with no Ign advance & a very slow engine.
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agree, 1.2 bar (17.4psi) sounds like it overboosting to me and that would be main cause of det. I think anything over 16 is a bad idea without proper map/mods. I dont think a standard 99 uk2000 should be running anywhere near that.
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no only head gaskets
OK think i have sorted this, i wound the actuator bar out 2 turns and this has lowered the boost to .9 det has now stopped and car still pulls strong.
only other problem i had was as i was braking down the slip road from a highish speed run one of my goodridge braided flexi hoses burst
to say i nearly shat myself is an understatement
another job to sort in the morn
OK think i have sorted this, i wound the actuator bar out 2 turns and this has lowered the boost to .9 det has now stopped and car still pulls strong.
only other problem i had was as i was braking down the slip road from a highish speed run one of my goodridge braided flexi hoses burst
to say i nearly shat myself is an understatement
another job to sort in the morn
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