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Old 25 October 2007, 07:10 PM
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I am currently gathering the bits to upgrade the performance of my 2001 WRX Bug eye and am interested to hear of any recommendations with regards to other potential upgrades to add to my list before mapping, which mapper to use etc. Also I'd like to hear what power and torque other people have achieved with similar setups.

I'm looking for a decent jump in performance to give me a smile a bit more like my 326bhp 300lbs/ft Cossie did.

We're talking engine mods here, I am in the process of researching handling upgrades at the moment and have recently had a lightweight flywheel, Exedy clutch, Eibach springs and Ferodo pads fitted.

I have all the parts to give it a full service which will be done in the next couple of weeks before fitting some of the below parts.

Mods already in posession

Stainless mid pipe and back box (unsure of brand, already on car when purchased)
Magnex Decat up pipe
Magnex Decat down pipe
Tornado Decat centre pipe
K&N Panel filter
Revotec Boost gauge
DIY Ported headers
Walbro fuel pump
Uprated Oil pump



Mods on my list to buy

TD05 Big 16G Turbo or ???
Ecutek Remap or Simtek?


Cheers Brad

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Old 25 October 2007, 09:15 PM
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With the TD05 and a remap you should easily see over 320bhp
You might want to get a ported up pipe too, just to help with the turbo spool up
Old 25 October 2007, 09:44 PM
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STi 500cc Pink injectors
VF35 turbo
STi TMIC
Remap

Easily see 330bhp with that on top of your current mods.
Old 25 October 2007, 09:57 PM
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I was told you'll struggle to get past 300hp with WRX heads,

My STi has more mods than that and after a AFP remap, the VF35 was struggling to push more than 335hp.

Realistically I think with TD05 sti7 tmic and a fpr you should see a true 300-310hp.

With what you have, 280-290hp after an ECUTEK3.
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Originally Posted by Northern Nick
I was told you'll struggle to get past 300hp with WRX heads.
I was talking to AndyF about my mods prior to him mapping it and he didn't say I needed to change the headers to get over the 300 mark - but I imagine that getting towards 330 is the limit.

You're right the VF35 can make up to around 330bhp on the WRX before it runs out of puff.
Old 26 October 2007, 08:11 AM
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Personally, i'd opt for

TD05 18G, EcuTek remap, Harvey's Headers (rough cost *guess* : £2000), depends on how much spare cash you have

18G has awesome mid range power
Old 26 October 2007, 08:49 AM
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I would go 4 the 18g also there isnt that much different in price but the results would b far better!
Old 26 October 2007, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bbventovr6
I am currently gathering the bits to upgrade the performance of my 2001 WRX Bug eye and am interested to hear of any recommendations with regards to other potential upgrades to add to my list before mapping, which mapper to use etc. Also I'd like to hear what power and torque other people have achieved with similar setups.

I'm looking for a decent jump in performance to give me a smile a bit more like my 326bhp 300lbs/ft Cossie did.

We're talking engine mods here, I am in the process of researching handling upgrades at the moment and have recently had a lightweight flywheel, Exedy clutch, Eibach springs and Ferodo pads fitted.

I have all the parts to give it a full service which will be done in the next couple of weeks before fitting some of the below parts.

Mods already in posession

Stainless mid pipe and back box (unsure of brand, already on car when purchased)
Magnex Decat up pipe
Magnex Decat down pipe
Tornado Decat centre pipe
K&N Panel filter
Revotec Boost gauge
DIY Ported headers
Walbro fuel pump
Uprated Oil pump



Mods on my list to buy

TD05 Big 16G Turbo or ???
Ecutek Remap or Simtek?


Cheers Brad
you will defo need to change injectors,standard wrx are only 380cc most popular choice seems to be a set of sti pinks
Old 26 October 2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RMA26
Personally, i'd opt for

TD05 18G, EcuTek remap, Harvey's Headers (rough cost *guess* : £2000), depends on how much spare cash you have

18G has awesome mid range power
Message from poster's gearbox:

"Hey buddy, what did I ever do to you!"

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Old 26 October 2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Message from poster's gearbox:

"Hey buddy, what did I ever do to you!"

Ns04

Old 26 October 2007, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RMA26
He means would the gearbox cope?
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Originally Posted by RLE
He means would the gearbox cope?

Indeed I did; chances are the 18G would break it!

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Originally Posted by scotsman

I was talking to AndyF about my mods prior to him mapping it and he didn't say I needed to change the headers to get over the 300 mark - but I imagine that getting towards 330 is the limit.
I said heads, not headers

bbventovr6

Mate, Please report back your true findings when your done as I'd be interested to know what your car manages to make.

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Old 26 October 2007, 09:25 PM
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VF34 , RCM headers , STi pinks and Ecutek or SimTek if you like the sound of Antilag and Map based control...Either should see you to 350bhp and similar torque....
Old 27 October 2007, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Northern Nick
I was told you'll struggle to get past 300hp with WRX heads
don't agree..
Old 27 October 2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
don't agree..
You will know better than me without doubt but I was always on the under standing that a WRX bugeye (didn't mention bugeye earlier but as the guy has a bugeye I assumed thats what we were talking about, I also assumed its a UK model) with a VF35 or TD05/16 wouldn't do anymore than 300hp with out head work.
Old 27 October 2007, 08:30 PM
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Thanks for the replies people, plenty to think about.

Finally got round to fitting my decat downpipe today, what a massive difference... the exhaust is a bit louder but it is pulling so much better

Nick - I will post up the figures once it's done but it may be a while yet as I'm really busy with work at the moment.

Brad
Old 27 October 2007, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bbventovr6

Nick - I will post up the figures once it's done but it may be a while yet as I'm really busy with work at the moment.

Brad
Old 16 November 2007, 08:23 PM
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Right full service now complete.

All parts I had piled up now fitted and STi v8 Intercooler & Y piece on it's way. Any advice on fitting? What's all this about extending pipes etc?

Still searching for injectors and not entirely sure what turbo to go for. I'm thinking a good used TD05 16g with front entry housing would be cheap to do but concerned that it may not satisfy my need for more power! Have been tempted by a new Forced Performance 18g.

What turbo/other mods could I make for nearer the 350bhp mark?

I just know i'll be gutted if i get a turbo, injectors and remap then wish I'd added a few more goodies before the remap lol
Old 16 November 2007, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bbventovr6

I just know i'll be gutted if i get a turbo, injectors and remap then wish I'd added a few more goodies before the remap lol

Your gonna be in that situation what ever you fit, once you sample the extra power after a upgrade....... after a while you will want more lol
Old 16 November 2007, 08:50 PM
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I see where you're coming from but tbh I never needed any more power with my cossie. I think 350 would give the desired results
Old 16 November 2007, 08:54 PM
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With reagrds to injectors, you do know that you can have you existing ones modified, as an alternative to replacing with expensive pink STI items.
Old 16 November 2007, 09:07 PM
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nope, news to me!
Tell me more

Thanks
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I think most tuning companies offer this service now, two i know for def are API and Mocom racing, they can be modified to flow virtually any amount you specify.

I had my Pink injectorers modified recently by API
Old 16 November 2007, 09:20 PM
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What sort of price does this cost? I have been offered some pinks for £100
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Originally Posted by bbventovr6
What sort of price does this cost? I have been offered some pinks for £100
Thats a good price IMO for pinks, only prob with buying second hand injectors is you dont have any idea of condition, iirc and please dont quote me on this as it was done as part of a huge package, mine cost £175 to get done.

hth
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had some 505cc flow tested and cleaned by mark at Lateral....... pretty sure he can offer the service to allow yor standard items to flow more than they do now...... plus you can do it yourself to a degree by fitting an adjustable fpr and running higher fuel pressure.
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Yes Mark @ Lateral Performance can clean and dlow test and increase flow on some injectors.. you would have to check is the newage 380cc's are included in that

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I know Mocoms can offer a service on the WRX injectors
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Gone for FP 18g turbo now, should be here next week.

Would love to hear from anyone else with a newage wrx and this turbo!

Still searching for pink injectors

Brad


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