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Old 28 March 2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Dismantling Struts.

Classic struts.



Do I need a special tool to separate the springs from the struts?

I thought I had all the tools needed. I removed the strut, compressed the spring, went to remove the top nut and found that I had no tool that would fit in the recess.

HELP!

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Old 28 March 2007, 12:26 AM
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a couple of ways,either use an allen key to hold the centre shaft with an o ring spanner or use a socket on the top nut and use mole grips with a cloth around the centre shaft to stop it turning
Old 28 March 2007, 12:47 AM
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Got allen keys, sussed that bit. I tried mole grips on the 19mm socket but it just turned. My dropped head spanners won't fit into the recess!!!! Wrong make? Wrong tool?
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you want to put the mole grips on the part UNDER the boot,the shiny metal rod,put a cloth over it not to damage it and use a 19mm socket on the nut
Old 28 March 2007, 08:24 AM
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Good ol plain english, 'shiny metal rod'.

Cheers squire, I'll try that.

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Old 28 March 2007, 10:11 AM
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Someone must know another method!!
Old 28 March 2007, 10:17 AM
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As said you need a 19mm socket on the top nut and hold the shaft in some way.

the easist method (but no good now) is to loosen the top 19mm nut whilst the struts are in the car and weight of the car on them.

Simon
Old 28 March 2007, 10:39 AM
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Hi

If its the rears your doing a final tighten once there back in and the car is underload. i.e before you re-fit the rear seats tighten the 19mm(wheels on the ground) again as it seemed to me you cant get them that tight whilst off the car and it will avoid the annoying knocking noise you'll discover on your first trip out
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
As said you need a 19mm socket on the top nut and hold the shaft in some way.

the easist method (but no good now) is to loosen the top 19mm nut whilst the struts are in the car and weight of the car on them.

Simon
I thought this would be the case so refitted it. The top nut is very very tight indeed. My Swan-neck spanner doesn't fit and with a rachet you can't get to the allen key!! I found all this out at 11pm last night in a cold garage.

Even with the strut refitted the nut will not loosen. Thats why I thought there must be a subaru tool to do the job. Any more suggestions will be greatly received..
Old 28 March 2007, 11:59 AM
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with the ratchet on it, is the nut rotating and turning the shaft or is it just solid?

if just solid then you need some more force.. although you might strip the thread....

Simon
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The shaft is turning. I can't get enough pressure on to release it. Bought a new spanner that fits the recess and still can't get it to release.
Old 28 March 2007, 05:06 PM
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do you want the spring or the strut?

I have had to cut the struts before to get the spring off.. if it is that seized..

tried heating it?

Simon
Old 28 March 2007, 05:15 PM
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19mm socket on a decent air impact gun, job done.
Old 28 March 2007, 05:56 PM
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I agree, impact gun everytime..........
Old 28 March 2007, 06:38 PM
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As i have said, pair of mole grips over a cloth holding the Rod and use the socket to undo it, it isnt this hard to acquire 2 pages of posts to remove the spring from a shocker !!!!

dont be scared, the rods are pretty damn solid so the mole grips over a decent cloth will not damage it,if i can do, you can my friend !!
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Originally Posted by The Rig
As i have said, pair of mole grips over a cloth holding the Rod and use the socket to undo it, it isnt this hard to acquire 2 pages of posts to remove the spring from a shocker !!!!

dont be scared, the rods are pretty damn solid so the mole grips over a decent cloth will not damage it,if i can do, you can my friend !!
it's a nice change from the norm though

impact gun wouldn't touch the one I had which was stuck, but it was off the car at the time..
Angle grinder sorted it as I only wanted the spring

Simon
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Sorted. Wanted the springs so did as Simon said. Both nuts seized to **** (fronts). No amount of brute force would have moved them. Luckily I had some spares to tide me over. Two Koni inserts that knock, and standard springs. The reason I wanted to dismantle them is that the KYB's were knocking too. All that work and the same problem!

Originally Posted by The Rig
It isnt this hard to acquire 2 pages of posts to remove the spring from a shocker !!!!
Thanks for that quote. I thought we are all here to share our knowledge rather than abuse it.
Old 28 March 2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dan83590



Thanks for that quote. I thought we are all here to share our knowledge rather than abuse it.

yup,and thats what u got, about 5 times over !
Old 28 March 2007, 08:38 PM
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Mr. Nice Guy.

Is it possible to cure the knocking? Tis like a loud rattle when going over small bumps.

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Old 28 March 2007, 09:41 PM
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Anyone?
Old 28 March 2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dan83590
Mr. Nice Guy.

Is it possible to cure the knocking? Tis like a loud rattle when going over small bumps.

Hi Mate,

Are you sure you aligned the upper spring seats correctly? (i.e. holes pointing outboard).

I had a knocking/twanging/rattling KYB front o/s that drove me nuts for 6mths. The numpty at the garage also left a spacer from the original oem strut on the KYB which messed up handling and steering response - I only discovered all of this when I finally had enough and stripped it down myself.

While I was at it, I took the opportunity to put some 'anti-slip' stuff (from halfrauds) onto the lower seat before I re-fitted the spring. Since then there's been no more noises which means I can enjoy the low-speed burble again!

Hope you sort it, whatever the cause.
Old 28 March 2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkFitz
Are you sure you aligned the upper spring seats correctly? (i.e. holes pointing outboard).
Not sure what you mean. Holes?
Old 28 March 2007, 10:23 PM
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Have you checked that you haven't got a worn drop link as these knock when they are worn.
Old 28 March 2007, 10:28 PM
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there's three holes drilled/punched through the upper spring seat. according to the service manual, these are supposed to point outboard - ensuring that the seat mates correctly to the turret.

can pm you a copy of the service manual if you want?
Old 28 March 2007, 11:42 PM
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Springs are correct. Drop links are newish so should be fine. Update. Probably something I've done wrong cus I can rock each front wheel vertically, enough to make the same noise, no sideways movement. I've changes the disc's at the same time.
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