Zola-the-master

What is the general opinion of induction kits... Which ones are the ones to steer clear of and who makes the good ones...?

Thanks in advance

P.S. I am on a bit of a budget

myblackwrx

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First thing people will say is not to bother (unless you're getting a front mount intercooler) and you want to run high power (350+ i think).

If you do want one K+N are highly regarded and Apexi in my opinion (i have 1 fitted to my 93wrx BUT i'm building a heat sheild and going to wrap various other parts).
Depends on what year your car is as well (the early MAFS are quite robust).

sjwdavies

What about the one's that relocate to the inner wing, are they any good?

Wurzel

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I have an APS CAK which sits in my wing, it sounds fantastic but then again it was mapped in along with the FMIC and a few other toys. But I hear you can't buy them anymore.

Zola-the-master

Its a year 2000 uk spec with a brand new MAF. Just thought i should also mention it has a full decat ss magnex system (3" down pipe) but a ss scorpion back box, and a VTA bov, Other than that its standard.

myblackwrx

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From what i have read on various forums they can pick up a lot of crap from the road and can easily get wet if not protected properly.

Zola depends what you want from the car a good panel filter and an Ecutek remap would be enough.

sjwdavies

Won me one on ebay today

Wurzel

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Cool!!! don't forget to get it mapped to your car before giving it the beans

myblackwrx

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Like Wurzel said you do need to get the car mapped for those.

https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...ers-views.html

This thread is a couple of years old but may be worth a look

jiffthejiffmanjaffa

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I'm gonna mirror what others have said. Unless you particularly want the noise or you plan to run 330BHP don't bother there's no need. A panel filter will do as good.

If you do go for a induction kit, get a dry filled one like an Apexi or HKS.

Oiled filled filters such as K&N or Pipercross can caused the MAF to fail, and engines go bang.

That said you MAF (early version 1 and 2's) are more robust and can take alittle more abuse.

dogpole

APS CAK for me





But i'm running without a maf anyway

sjwdavies

So I should get my car mapped before fitting by APS cold air feed filter?

Will something like an ESL chip or a ScoobyECU do?

myblackwrx

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That's a clean engine bay

jiffthejiffmanjaffa

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You shoulkd get you car mapped after you've had the air filter fitted. I'd say get a Apexi Power FC. Much better than a piggy back chip but about the same money.

sjwdavies

How, because the ESL and ScoobyECU chips are around £200, but the Apexi Power FC is over £800 fitted.....

myblackwrx

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I do think jiff got that slightly wrong the esl/scoobyecu are very reliable (do a search on here) but the Apexi power fc has a greater deal of flexibilty which i think would be better if you fit the APS CAK imo.

The Power Fc is £800 fitted and mapped and can easily be remapped if you fit bigger injectors,fmic etc whereas i'm not too sure about the esl/scoobyecu

Pete

Nice clean looking bay you`ve got there dogpole....

sjwdavies

I'm thinkin that, now just have to get round the idea on spendin £800 on a remap

myblackwrx

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Best thing to do is leave the car as it is and speak to someone who maps the Power FC (www'jollygreenmonster.co.uk) posts on here as jollygreenmonster (surprisingly ) to name one (he remapped my mates' 94wrx) and is extremely helpful with questions.
If you're happy with advice yuo get from him and people on here who've had a remap with the Power FC just save up for it.

harvey

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Up to over 350 bhp on a Classic and more on a New Age, you may as well stick with the O/E air box.
The difference in performance between the O/E Subaru and various aftermarket pannel filters is negligible in terms of air flow or power. The O/e Subaru is actually not a bad filter.
In terms of filtration, some of the after market leave a lot to be desired.