Inlet manifold reversal
17 September 2006, 12:53 PM
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Inlet manifold reversal
Hi all iv recently removed the engine from my version 1 sti due to head gasket faliure, at the moment the engine is sitting in the garage being stripped down while im in the process of cleaning, tidying, painting and powder coating bits and pieces, iv noticed that if i place the inlet manifold on the block as if i was reversing it, throttle body at the front, it seems to fit exaclty right, iv not bolted it down or anything yet, i wanted to eventually look into this as going for an fmic, surley its not that easy!, is it?
17 September 2006, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
interested in this too?
ill try and get some pics up but will have to use camera phone, i lent my digi camera to my parents to take on holiday .
As i said seems to fit perfectly all bolt holes line up injector cut outs in the manifold and block line up, if it did fit corrctly it would just be a case of extending a few wires and hoses and coming up with a way to get the throttle cable to fit/work correctly.
17 September 2006, 04:40 PM
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Was just thinking the alternator, power steering pump, a/c compressor are all taken of the engine at the mo, think the throttle body may fowl the alternator, will find out when go back to down to my garage.
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Try shutting the bonnet, its not that easy!
I never thought about that either lol, ok maybe not as simple as i thought, im going to look into more though will keep you posted,
Banny thanks for that mate, but i think i could prob whip my own up, looks a quality bit of kit though.
18 September 2006, 03:47 PM
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Throttle body fouls the alternator.. try alternator totally obscures the intercooler pipe work.. you need to remove the air con compressor.. no room and move the alternator over.
Also the idle valve clashes with the power steering resevoir.. along with the throttle linkage.. the inlet manifold / throttle body also point up slightly, as David suggests the TB or the intercooler pipe work will hit the bonnet.
David to weld a plate to the front of my manifold and drill for the throttle body.
http://jollygreenmonster.fotopic.net/p33071215.html
http://jollygreenmonster.fotopic.net/p33071216.html
You need to cross David's hand with folding stuff.
Simon
Also the idle valve clashes with the power steering resevoir.. along with the throttle linkage.. the inlet manifold / throttle body also point up slightly, as David suggests the TB or the intercooler pipe work will hit the bonnet.
David to weld a plate to the front of my manifold and drill for the throttle body.
http://jollygreenmonster.fotopic.net/p33071215.html
http://jollygreenmonster.fotopic.net/p33071216.html
You need to cross David's hand with folding stuff.
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18 September 2006, 05:23 PM
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LOL @ Simon.
yeah I have been known to do a few
I never made AndyFs but I did machine the ally that he welded on 
yeah I have been known to do a few
I never made AndyFs but I did machine the ally that he welded on
18 September 2006, 09:58 PM
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Banny,
If you ARE going to do it then yes better before the remap..
Although would not alter the whole map and so would only need a tweak (or perhaps only a check up) to sort after etc.. in theory you are only changing the pipe length and would therefore only be effecting the time to fill the pipes, and would have little effect.
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If you ARE going to do it then yes better before the remap..
Although would not alter the whole map and so would only need a tweak (or perhaps only a check up) to sort after etc.. in theory you are only changing the pipe length and would therefore only be effecting the time to fill the pipes, and would have little effect.
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18 September 2006, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
shorter pipe runs.. less lag.. look neat.. lol frees up space..
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18 September 2006, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
just put up with a flat battery
Maybe when its no longer my commuting car i'd consider it, as i would then consider the aircon to be excess weight
and the turbo not big enough or rotated enough
aswell as the cc to be to little etc etc etc........
19 September 2006, 05:19 PM
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I had a go at this myself..
Reversing the entrance into the inlet manifold itself I found quite easy.....
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...lipseWRX42.jpg
It was all the other stuff that took a bit of time to work/sort out....
Alternator bracket, belt re-routing and tensioner, power steering reservoir, throttle cable set up...
Although having said that, once you've done one, it's easy second time around..
Reversing the entrance into the inlet manifold itself I found quite easy.....
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...lipseWRX42.jpg
It was all the other stuff that took a bit of time to work/sort out....
Alternator bracket, belt re-routing and tensioner, power steering reservoir, throttle cable set up...
Although having said that, once you've done one, it's easy second time around..
19 September 2006, 07:32 PM
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Yep, However Id be seriously concerned about the mounting angle of your turbo and the manufacturers recommended angles!
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Yep, However Id be seriously concerned about the mounting angle of your turbo and the manufacturers recommended angles!
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20 September 2006, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Yep, However Id be seriously concerned about the mounting angle of your turbo and the manufacturers recommended angles!
David
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But surely the oil is under pressure around the bearing, and 'shouldn't' be too much of a problem...???
20 September 2006, 06:16 PM
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Garrett state guidlines.. Im sure they do for a reason
How many miles has it done like that?
If it breaks Ive got a 35/42 for sale
How many miles has it done like that?
If it breaks Ive got a 35/42 for sale
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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
Garrett state guidlines.. Im sure they do for a reason
How many miles has it done like that?
If it breaks Ive got a 35/42 for sale
How many miles has it done like that?
If it breaks Ive got a 35/42 for sale
Must be too expensive
TBH, I've only done around 2000 miles on it, the gearbox has give up before I can get any decent miles on the bl@@dy thing
22 September 2006, 12:00 AM
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LOL.. Too expensive yeah right!
Dare I ask you what you paid for tubo, headers, downpipe, oil & water pipe, wastegate?
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Dare I ask you what you paid for tubo, headers, downpipe, oil & water pipe, wastegate?
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