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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Question 60 second Brands Hatch lap

Anyone done sub 60 second lap at Brands ?

If so what does it take, ie spec of car, suspension, brakes and power ?

I can't change me but I need to find out what car I'll need to give me a chance. I don't pretend to be anything other than an average driver, but I can and will mod the car.

A couple of friends of mine and I are in a bit of a challenge. One guy has done 1min 2seconds on his bike - he now has a Ducatti which would get him under the 60sec barrier, so I need to get my skates on.

I have 1997 UK car, which before the attempt will have :-
300 - 320bhp
Grooved front discs with Ferodo racing pads
Braided brake hoses
Standard 2 pots
Dot 5.1 brake fluid
24mm rear anti roll bar
22mm front anti roll bar
Standard size 16" Toyo Proxes


Will this give me a chance or am I dreaming

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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i think a friend of mine in his Clio trophy gets close.....if not under 60...

id suggest its not about what power of car but how much ***** youve got to push it really.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Yeah OK, but you could have the biggest ***** in history, but even if your called McCrea, you couldn't get a 850cc Mini round there in 60 seconds.

I just wanted an idea of what car would give you a chance of that lap time.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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I filmed someone at the SIDC trackday back in Feb going round in about a minute, not sure who but he was in a blue bug eye (I think). He got my attention by making the most tyre squeals! Also I've seen a vid of a Caterham doing it in 55 secs.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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no no, what i mean is that chances are it wont take extra grunt to get you round but a nicely balanced car, do you have any suspension upgrades other than the roll bars?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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No to any other suspension upgrades - I could look into the anti lift kit, but I can't afford a completely different set up :-(
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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do you have aftermarket springs?

TBH you may be surprised at how well the car goes anyway with what youve got. Give it a shot, see how quick you are (unofficial timing of course )
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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This is for pride

I'm up against a Ducatti and a brand new WRX with goodness knows what mods - BIG brakes - suspention & ECUTEK.

I have the cheapest machine and really can not afford to stack it, I just wanted to know if I was even in the right ball park, I think I am so now I need to get a bit of practice in.

I know an ex racing driver, so I think some coaching for a few bottles of wine may be on the cards don't tell anyone, but we all know this is the best modification you can do anyway.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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i know how that feels....
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ClintUK
Anyone done sub 60 second lap at Brands ?

Thanks
IIRC my best is a 50.9
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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oops sorry, thought this was in the bikers forum
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rmtypeR
I filmed someone at the SIDC trackday back in Feb going round in about a minute, not sure who but he was in a blue bug eye (I think). He got my attention by making the most tyre squeals! Also I've seen a vid of a Caterham doing it in 55 secs.
if this was stickered it would most likely be ROBROY... had been doing brands for a fair few years. would be interested to know how the spec'c' was doing (unofficially of course ) might see if i can get an idea of time on the GP circuit 2moro....
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by p1mark
IIRC my best is a 50.9
Ive done 55s ish indy and 1.41s ish GP (F2 Sidecar)
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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What spec is your car ?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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i think theyre both bikes.....
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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For brands, the power isnt so important its really about suspension set up and brakes and most of all tyres which will make the biggest difference of all. I managed a 59 sec lap on road tyres and a 52.5 on race tyres in my britcar spec crx. steve
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