Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

98 turbo not responding to mods?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:09 PM
  #1  
willyc's Avatar
willyc
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Letchworth, Herts
Default 98 turbo not responding to mods?

I have recently got hold of a 98 turbo wagon, and it seems to have reduced performance.

Basically the vacuum pipe snapped on the recirc and it started loosing boost through that. So the pipe is blocked until aftermarket one arrives.
But did feel a loss of power since that.
After that it has had a powertec filter and wrapped 3" downpipe, and just doesnt seem to have improved in power. I know from experiencing with other scoobys that they do respond well to downpipes/decats.
It also has waterspray for the intercooler, now it is highly unlikely that i will "feel" a gain from this. But the car is definitely lacking in performance since i first got the car a few weeks ago. You feel/hear the turbo spool, but it has lost thrust. It still pulls evenly without any surging.

After searching on here i have cleaned out the boost solenoid and reset the ECU, to no avail.

Any ideas?
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:32 PM
  #2  
lightwave693's Avatar
lightwave693
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
From: Swansea
Default

check the hoses going to the turbo, the one that goes under the intake manifold is prone to warping and leaking. is there a boost guage fitted? should be boosting at .9bar as standard. check for boost leaks. any whistles around 3krpm? if so id suspect a leak...

good luck, mines 98 turbo wagon too and it responded very well to a few simple mods.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:38 PM
  #3  
willyc's Avatar
willyc
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Letchworth, Herts
Default

You mean the inlet pipe that feeds the turbo (vacuum side).

Cheers for the help, am yet to get a boost gauge in there, but can hear plenty of spool and chatter.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:44 PM
  #4  
jonny gav's Avatar
jonny gav
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,920
Likes: 0
From: North East Subaru Forum
Default

if you have left the vacuum pipe off the dump valve it will open under boost!

when the pipe is in place the pressure from the turbo prevents the dumpvalve from opening, without this pressure the boost will over power the valve and it will leak causing a drop in performance.

Last edited by jonny gav; Mar 30, 2006 at 08:35 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:47 PM
  #5  
willyc's Avatar
willyc
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Letchworth, Herts
Default

vac pipe and the boost pipe to the recirc are blocked, definitely 100% sealed.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:08 PM
  #6  
scooby dancer's Avatar
scooby dancer
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by willyc
vac pipe and the boost pipe to the recirc are blocked, definitely 100% sealed.
if you have blocked dump valve off back pressure from inlet will slow turbo (spits air back out air intake) this is not good long term will kill turbo and or maf sensor!! remember wagons only have tdo4 turbos as standard with blocked/leaking pipes ect will only make performance worse!!
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:22 PM
  #7  
scooby dancer's Avatar
scooby dancer
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by jonny gav
if you have left vacuum the pipe off the dump valve it will open under boost!

when the pipe is in place the pressure from the turbo prevents the dumpvalve from opening, without this pressure the boost will over power the valve and it will leak causing a drop in performance.
This is actualy the other way round on a standard dv the vacuum pipe opens the dv if vacuum is disconnected the dv will stay closed although a standard one may leak!!
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2006 | 08:35 AM
  #8  
jonny gav's Avatar
jonny gav
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,920
Likes: 0
From: North East Subaru Forum
Default

its boost AND the pressure of the spring that holds the valve shut, the spring alone isn't up to the job by its self so it will blow open under boost conditions.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2006 | 03:52 PM
  #9  
willyc's Avatar
willyc
Thread Starter
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Letchworth, Herts
Default

I know that long-term it can cause turbo damage, but i have an aftermarket recirc on route.

I am having no luck finding any air leaks at the minute....

Anymore ideas?

Last edited by willyc; Mar 30, 2006 at 05:48 PM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
S600HBY
Subaru Parts
7
Sep 30, 2015 11:24 AM
jobegold@hotmail.co.uk
ScoobyNet General
2
Sep 27, 2015 09:44 PM
Pro-Line Motorsport
Car Parts For Sale
0
Sep 27, 2015 11:18 AM
hedgecutter
ScoobyNet General
4
Sep 25, 2015 11:42 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:50 AM.