Whats the limit on Newage 380cc injectors
04 November 2005, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Just wanted to know the limit on 380 injectors on my 04 WRX, as im having a VF28 turbo put on and mapped next week and was wondering if the injectors would be up for the job. 
04 November 2005, 10:37 PM
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I have seen ppl on here with 280-290 on the 380's, but my car only manages 268 bhp, and i got told they were pretty much maxed out at that. I got that info from 2 different very well respected places.
At the most 290, but an easy 270 you should get.
After that you be like me and looking at turbos, 440 or 550 injectors, etc, and more remaps;
At the most 290, but an easy 270 you should get.
After that you be like me and looking at turbos, 440 or 550 injectors, etc, and more remaps;
05 November 2005, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Granby
I thought they were 440's on 04 WRX's, i'm using standard injectors with a VF34 turbo & i'm getting 336bhp, when Bob Rawle mapped it he did say the injectors were running 90% duty cycle.
Granby, how much of a difference did the VF34 make on the road..? (assuming you ran a remapped TD04 before).
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05 November 2005, 02:56 PM
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Basically same for me on my 05, although using TD04, BR said inj were well within their capacity. Powerstation RR 276/266 @1.4bar.
Granby, how much of a difference did the VF34 make on the road..? (assuming you ran a remapped TD04 before).
Granby, how much of a difference did the VF34 make on the road..? (assuming you ran a remapped TD04 before).
, the difference is when you get to 3500rpm you have a very big grin on your face as you get pushed hard back into the drivers seat , also where a TD04 runs out of steam at about 5500-6000rpm the VF34 keeps on going to the redline & further i think if it could 
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Originally Posted by Granby
I thought they were 440's on 04 WRX's, i'm using standard injectors with a VF34 turbo & i'm getting 336bhp, when Bob Rawle mapped it he did say the injectors were running 90% duty cycle.
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05 November 2005, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They should be 440cc injectors, the phase 2 engine comes with these and as its a phase 2 engine....
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05 November 2005, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDaSS
But the 03 has 380's, is that correct?
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05 November 2005, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They should be 440cc injectors, the phase 2 engine comes with these and as its a phase 2 engine....
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05 November 2005, 10:11 PM
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93-97 uk run 380cc, 99/00 UK run 440cc, 01-04 WRX run 380cc injectors.
300bhp is the safe limit on 380's.
Approximate way to rate injectors is Size x 0.8 = bhp limit.
High flow pumps running on higher fuel pressure regulators can increase this slightly.
Beware of quoting just a single rolling road bhp figure, best to average results over a few to get a realistic average.
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300bhp is the safe limit on 380's.
Approximate way to rate injectors is Size x 0.8 = bhp limit.
High flow pumps running on higher fuel pressure regulators can increase this slightly.
Beware of quoting just a single rolling road bhp figure, best to average results over a few to get a realistic average.
Andy
06 November 2005, 08:28 AM
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MY03 WRX with PPP ECU, 145lt/h fuel pump (in place of the factory 130lt/h) and full decat (standard injectors are as Andy says, all new age WRX's have 380cc, I am not sure but believe the same applies to the 2.5lt WRX).
More or less 240HP measured with DD and 100-101% injector duties for a very short period of 200-300rpm.
I have had an AVO turbo inlet hose that sent my IDC at 107% after 5500rpm recently.
JIM
More or less 240HP measured with DD and 100-101% injector duties for a very short period of 200-300rpm.
I have had an AVO turbo inlet hose that sent my IDC at 107% after 5500rpm recently.
JIM
06 November 2005, 10:40 AM
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Andy,
Maybe you should have said,
Also, does this also apply to turbo capability ?
Mark.
Maybe you should have said,
Originally Posted by Andy.F
"300bhp is the safe "realistic" limit on 380's"
Safe being the operative word there Dave
Safe being the operative word there Dave
Beware of quoting just a single rolling road bhp figure, best to average results over a few to get a realistic average
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
"300bhp is the safe limit on 380's"
Safe being the operative word there Dave
Safe being the operative word there Dave
You wouldn't believe how safe it seems to be running then!
...........although knowing you, you probably DO!
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