Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Cold lumpy idle - NOT MAF or LAmbda

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 09:40 PM
  #1  
ScooBStu's Avatar
ScooBStu
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Default Cold lumpy idle - NOT MAF or LAmbda

Ok as title (MY 00 standard uk turbo),

What else could it be? I start the car from work drive about half a mile (Surging) and stop at the traffic ligfhts. It is then lumpy at idle - Stays this way till its warmed up.

I replaced the MAF recently and tested the Lambda tonight - Pin 21 of the ECU blue plug which appeared as expected - i.e. 0 - 0.8 volts up and down.

What else could it be?

Any ideas would be appreciated!!!
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 10:04 PM
  #2  
Triple X's Avatar
Triple X
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 0
From: www.ladsoc.co.uk
Lightbulb

Possibly idle control valve if non of the others you mention.

Try a search for "idle", "titles only" and see what problems others have had. Quite a few that will help you.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 09:28 AM
  #3  
Foot_Tapper's Avatar
Foot_Tapper
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,977
Likes: 0
Default

could it be the water temp sensor ?????
doesnt this give feedback when the engine is cold to feed more fuel, ie 1100 revs cold then settle to 850. If it was playing up giving ecu duff gen, could trick it into raising revs.
What rev range does it rise and fall between ??
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 12:52 PM
  #4  
ScooBStu's Avatar
ScooBStu
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Default

The rev range barely moves to be honest - It just judders all the time. Once warm it nearly goes away but not quite - Then judders every 3-4 seconds but only mildly compared to when it is cold.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 02:18 PM
  #5  
Foot_Tapper's Avatar
Foot_Tapper
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,977
Likes: 0
Default

hmmm try as triple said, idle control valve, give it a clean, be careful to put it back in same position it came out in.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:59 PM
  #6  
ScooBStu's Avatar
ScooBStu
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Default

OK will try - Where abouts is it and what do you mean make sure it is put back in the same place. Will give it a try this weekend.

Cheers
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2005 | 08:28 AM
  #7  
Foot_Tapper's Avatar
Foot_Tapper
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,977
Likes: 0
Default

As you look at the engine with the bonnet up, its on the engine just to the right of where your intercooler pipe joins the air intake manifold.
You see it is held in place with 2 screws IIRC, if it isnt replaced with same orientation,
it will affect idle speed.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2005 | 10:16 AM
  #8  
ScooBStu's Avatar
ScooBStu
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 401
Likes: 0
Default

Cleaned the idle control valve this morning and the boost solonoid valve. The idle valve was black and the solonoid valve had some oil in.

Will let you know how I get on with it.

Thanks again.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2005 | 10:21 AM
  #9  
MKC's Avatar
MKC
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Question how did you get on?

I have just started my car as normal, warmed up idling from cold as it should.
Had some pratt blocking the road in front of my whilst chatting to his mate on the other side so caned it up the inside and after that the warm idle started pulsing up and down, longer it was left, the wider the surges (900 to 700, then 900 to 500, then 900 to 300 and almost cutting out.

Drives great, just idles in this pulsed manner.

Im going to clean my idle control valve and boost solonoid valve.

Just wandered how you got on with doing yours ?

Was it easy to get to them, remove, clean and replace ??

Thanks,

MKC
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SilverM3
ScoobyNet General
8
Feb 24, 2021 01:03 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
Dec 28, 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
Nov 18, 2015 07:03 AM
FuZzBoM
Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
16
Oct 4, 2015 09:49 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
Oct 2, 2015 09:22 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:13 AM.