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Old 27 May 2005, 11:42 PM
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Default oil oil oil need advice on oil........please?

hi guys,

right, i've been trying to read other peopleposts about

what oil to use
when to use it
when to change it
where to get it

blah blah blah blah

so would someone please be kind enough to help this scooby newbie and put in to basics about what i should get/use

i've got a 52 WRX, cars done about 14000 miles, i use it daily for short journeys.

if anyone could help it'll be grrrreat,

thanks in advance, cos i knowyou guys love chatting about oils! lol
Old 27 May 2005, 11:47 PM
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what oil to use

A good quality 10W-40 is recommended, Semi-Synthetic is fine .... the manufacturer doesn't really matter, despite the hype you will now get!
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when to use it AND when to change it

See your Service Book, its as simple as that
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where to get it

Try the Motor Factors
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Old 27 May 2005, 11:52 PM
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some people were saying that they topped up every 250-350 miles, or was that octane boost they were chatting about?
Old 27 May 2005, 11:54 PM
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No, it was oil ...... you need an oil change every 250 miles or the MAF Sensor packs in!!

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Old 27 May 2005, 11:58 PM
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really?????

but i do about 250 miles per tank of feul.........so what am i doin wrong? i just been checking that the car had oil in every week etc.

am i messing the car up.
Old 28 May 2005, 12:05 AM
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Each tank of fuel should tell you that you need an oil change, contact the Subaru garage and tell them that you are doing 250miles to a tank and need them to do a 250 mile service!!

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Old 28 May 2005, 12:48 AM
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sorry but that is the biggest load of crap... there is no way you need to change ur oil that often!!!!! seriously if your driving the car hard and everyday then change the oil every 3000 miles. that is healthy for the car. i have been strongly recommended to use 10w 60 fully synthetic millers motorsport oils!!! (the best) not the kind of stuff you get from halfords. Dunno where to buy it...i'm sure places stock it. The specialist who services my car keeps it on sight so i never have to buy any.

Using the correct oil and changing it regularly is the key to keeping your motor in good health.

Think pete was taking the **** a little bit.
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For normal Scooby use, a quality 5W40 semi or fully synthetic is ideal. If you intend to track, or tend to drive everywhere extremely hard, or are running serious mods which lead to higher running temps then move up to a 10W50 or maybe even 15W60. Change every 10k is fine (after all, it's what's recommended during the warranty) but like many, I'd always change it every 5k or 6 months. Always use an OE Subaru filter and new sump washer and pre-fill the filter (it takes a while).
Recommended brands are Motul 300V, Silkolene ProS, Millers or Mobil. You could do worse than contact Simon at www.opieoils.co.uk or hunt him down as "oilman" on here.
P!$$y Pete will be along soon to dismiss me for it, but the guy sells quality products, at competetive prices with an excellent service. Lewis gets upset that the guy freely shares his time and technical knowlege with interested enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by Sideways, the way forward
Think pete was taking the **** a little bit.
The guy has a 52 WRX and is asking about how often to change the oil!!

The information is in the booklet that comes with the car!!

I will leave it to your imagination WHO was actually taking the ****

Dear god, some of you lead very sheltered lives ..... you must be with mummy still, yes??

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Originally Posted by corradoboy
For normal Scooby use, a quality 5W40 semi
Thats not what your lover Oilman recommends!!

Isn't it 15W-50????

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Old 28 May 2005, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Lewis gets upset that the guy freely shares his time and technical knowlege with interested enthusiasts.
I don't get upset at oil

The bloke posts on every BBS possible to sell his products ...... he can't find the data sheets for Carlube TripleR, now - that would have been helpful (but, of course its not in his business interests to find out that CarLube TripleR is actually a top oil for little money, is it now?)

I am absolutely sure he sells quality oils at reasonable prices and knows how to retail oils, apparently, he also gives excellent service. He is also probably a very decent chap to know.

But lets not confuse the business with the 'help' ...........

'Born Yesterday' springs to mind ......... I'm a bit longer in the tooth

Pete

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Old 28 May 2005, 09:17 AM
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Thats not what your lover Oilman recommends!!

Isn't it 15W-50????

Pete
Yes, it is. For hard use or extreme temps I seem to recall even the handbook recommends going up a grade.

For daily short journeys, yes change it more often than the recommended 10K - again as per handbook. Neither of these comments is unique to Scoobies or Scoobynet.

And the number in front of W is unimportant once the oil is up to temperature. For instance a 5W40 or 10W40 or 15W40 are all the same "thickness" at 100 degrees. At cold temps, the first number isimportant - if you live in the North pole you would probably want a 0W40

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Old 28 May 2005, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I don't get upset at oil

The bloke posts on every BBS possible to sell his products ...... he can't find the data sheets for Carlube TripleR, now - that would have been helpful (but, of course its not in his business interests to find out that CarLube TripleR is actually a top oil for little money, is it now?)

I am absolutely sure he sells quality oils at reasonable prices and knows how to retail oils, he also gives excellent service - of that I am sure. he is also probably a very decent chap to know.

But lets not confuse the business with the 'help' ...........

'Born Yesterday' springs to mind ......... I'm a bit longer in the tooth

Pete
Worth pointing out that he is also an authorised advertiser on here, which I presume he pays for
Old 28 May 2005, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Trashman
Worth pointing out that he is also an authorised advertiser on here, which I presume he pays for
Errrrrm, which means what, exactly??

Its just like advertising in a car magazine - so, not quite sure how that lends anything to the debate?

And yes, 15W-50 is WAY too thick for road use in this country - according to Redline (who REALLY know about Oils!) - the added drag on the Engine is not good news!

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Old 28 May 2005, 09:28 AM
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LOL Pete, ffs man. Hahaha.
The poor f00ka was gonna be out changing his oil all weekend long!
Mind you, if only to read the manual......................
Old 28 May 2005, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDaSS
LOL Pete, ffs man. Hahaha.
The poor f00ka was gonna be out changing his oil all weekend long!
Mind you, if only to read the manual......................
And if he did, which I very much doubt, he would have deserved it - wouldn't you say??

Anyone who buys a 52 WRX and doesn't even know when to have the Oil changed is a ............, well, you fill in the gap!

If he knows nothing about when to change then he will NOT be doing it himself (one would hope!) so he would get sorted out pretty sharpish by the corner garage.

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Originally Posted by pslewis
Errrrrm, which means what, exactly??

Its just like advertising in a car magazine - so, not quite sure how that lends anything to the debate?

And yes, 15W-50 is WAY too thick for road use in this country - according to Redline (who REALLY know about Oils!) - the added drag on the Engine is not good news!

Pete
Just pointing out that on this forum, he is paying to make his comments. OK, you could argue that it was a little investment - speculate to accumulate - but it isnt as if he is allowed to recommend "his" products freely. He was at first but presumably he was asked to become an authorised advertiser.

And yes for normal road use generally in the UK, w-50 is too thick, but for hard road use or in extreme temperatures it is OK. Also, IIRC the Subaru recommended oils are slightly thicker for new age over classic. Subaru, like all manufacturers, show a range of oils and w-50 is at the upper end for hard use.
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I am also less suspicious of Oilman as he is selling 6 different brands, and several types of oil of each brand. If he came on here and said the only oil for your Scooby is Oilman's 10W40 then I would wholeheartedly agree.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I'm a bit longer in the tooth
You said it
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firstly i'd like to thank trashman, sideways, an corradoboy for their advice.

secondly, i have read the manual, but what the heck is the point of having disscusion on decent forums like this IF everyone followed the manual exactly, what fun would that be.........eh.

and Mr lewis...........hmmm....... i've seen so many posts from other scoobynetters always saying " don't listern to anything this guy say" "pslewis chats out of his a$$" etc etc but i was stupid to think that maybe when you were giving me some normal advice, rather than just wasting time,anyway i ain't gana lose any sleep about it.

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Old 28 May 2005, 09:27 PM
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Nick, be my guest - ignore the Subaru manual .... have some fun ...

I would like to recommend some Olive Oil for your car, changed at 100,000miles - would that be FUN enough for you??

Pete
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yeah yeah yeah, will do, might even try some baby oil for a really "smooth" drive,

thanks again.
Old 28 May 2005, 09:56 PM
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Your mummy needs the baby oil to rub on your botty at night, please don't use it all up!

Get a book out the library, its entitled, "Car Mechanics for the plain stupid" by Phil McKavity

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look mate, i think you should be restricted to the muppet forum an never be let out.

this is the technical advice forum so lets leave it at that, and act your age an not your shoe size.
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Gunner, CLICK HERE
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cheers corra,
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Originally Posted by AsianGunner
look mate, i think you should be restricted to the muppet forum an never be let out.

this is the technical advice forum so lets leave it at that, and act your age an not your shoe size.
The muppet forum is for people who ask questions like:-

"When should I change the oil" its in the book in your car, muppet!

"Do I really have to change the oil every 250 miles or am I a complete moron?"

The Technical Forum is for people who ask questions like:-

"What is the part number of the MAF Sensor because my tyres have a puncture and a faulty MAF has been shown up as the culprit"

A few of words of wisdom for you, "grow up and have a laugh"

Pete
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