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Old 31 January 2005, 10:10 PM
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Default samco induction hose

what benefits if any are there in using an aftermarket samco/similar induction hose on a 99/00 year car
Old 31 January 2005, 10:32 PM
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Is this the big expensive one, or do you mean I/C hose?

If its the induction one, not much unless your current one is a restriction IMHO. Plus it looks a ******* to fit. I recall PE rating it though.

In conjunction with big mods it would probably be worth it, ie big airflow. Think Harvey has one (big bhp)

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Old 31 January 2005, 11:40 PM
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It is a pig to fit, you end up having to break/cut the old one to get it off, and then a lot of wresting with the new one, unless you want to remove the inlet manifold. Biggest benefit is that it helps the turbo spool up quicker, IMHO - my bugeye WRX is noticeably more lively at just under/around 2500rpm, for example. Think it helps a little at very high revs too.

Autospeed did a test and proved that the inlet hose and inlet resonator are a lot bigger restriction than the panel filter. Yet most people change the panel filter.
Old 01 February 2005, 01:15 AM
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Old 01 February 2005, 05:06 PM
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so they are worth the money, ive seen them on graham goodes site for around £250 delivered, is that a good price ????
Old 01 February 2005, 05:37 PM
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Prodrive inlet pipe looks good and is cheaper, however does not have all 'usual' junctions

1. Need catch can ( not too much of a problem )
2. If using recirculating dump valve this needs to be plumed in, as designed for rally car with no dump valve ( tee into metal trumpet holding air filter or similar )
3. Idle stablilisation control valve ( ? )

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Pain in the butt to fit even with the inlet manifold off!
The difficulty is getting the manifold back down properly onto the engine.
Costs a fortune to, (£230) but is well made though
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Old 01 February 2005, 06:10 PM
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tried for a smaco one at proven porducts, its only £199 but they dont stock them and they say its upto a 4 week wait , fitting doesnt really make any difference to me as i will pay someone to do it
Old 01 February 2005, 08:17 PM
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Prepare for a couple of hours labour at least I had a look at one fitted, and decided against it on that basis!

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Steve,

The one Harvey has on his STi is an MRT one and I have one sitting here for your model.

They are expensive but I have one on my car and it makes a tremendous difference and is much less restrictive than OEM. The induction "suck" is awesome.

Andy said when he mapped my car that it breatehed exceptionally well, so for my money it's worth it. Not just saying that to try and sell it You know me, and when it comes to advice I never b.s. to get a sale.

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Rich, what would you charge to fit one out of interest? Rather the skin off your knuckles than mine

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AVO's (MRT is AVO made) is the best design/quality as it joins filter box to turbo, more than 2-3 hours for fitting and some broken knuckles ... but worth the effort especially as it gives better low end and throttle response.
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Rich, what would you charge to fit one out of interest? Rather the skin off your knuckles than mine

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Hi Mark,

It takes around 3 hours. You can either cut the old inlet pipe out, in which case it can't be returned to standard (if that matters) or take the inlets off (takes a bit longer).

Rich
Old 02 February 2005, 02:13 PM
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Ta Rich - wont be having a go myself then! I may have to go down that route before long...

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really tempted on new inlet pipe after speaking to stickymicky, but off what he said i think ill have to drive it easy till a remap as it increased his boost and i am already peaking at 1.7bar on the defi gauges
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You can either cut the old inlet pipe out, in which case it can't be returned to standard
I got mine out without cutting - although it did involve pulling off one of the nozzles poking out of it, you could stick it back on in theory.
Old 02 February 2005, 07:28 PM
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my boost increased from 1.39ish peak to 1.44/1.45+

in the space of me changing the inlet pipe
so i belive the standerd part must be pretty restrictive?

feels a lot more "free" when driving it, sounds nice, all goes well, until it sucks itself closed at 5500 rpm LOL

i managed to fit mine without moving the powersteering and inlet manifold which was a bit tricky? but also good for bragging
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I think ChristainR had one collapse too... Not sure if it was Samco or MRT? Samco IIRC.

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Old 02 February 2005, 08:32 PM
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cant make up my mind between the 2 samco/mrt. mrt because of what rich has mentioned and samco because of the price but im sure the new samco doesnt collapse???
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I hope not as I've just fitted one
I'll let you know on the 19th Feb after the Mapping

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Old 02 February 2005, 08:51 PM
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The new samco's are fine i had one of the old one and it did collapse, told samco who asked for it back and set out a replacement.


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pointless letting me know then as i will of been and gone to andy's myself
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Originally Posted by stevebt
pointless letting me know then as i will of been and gone to andy's myself

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Old 02 February 2005, 10:58 PM
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you could always fit a few clips to the new samco one as a little bit of extra security if your that botherd?
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went with an MRT induction pipe rich was selling them off cheap
Old 04 February 2005, 09:52 PM
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Got anymore??

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Old 04 February 2005, 10:23 PM
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just pm him , he was selling them for £150 lol
Old 04 February 2005, 10:25 PM
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Hmmm.

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tried to pm you but your full
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******* subscription ran out and cut my limit from 100 to 25

Have another go!

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