View Poll Results: Who mapped or who would you let map your car
Xtreme scoobies
8
11.27%
Powerstation
5
7.04%
BR Developments
45
63.38%
TSL
6
8.45%
API
7
9.86%
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Which mapper??
20 January 2005, 01:45 PM
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Which mapper??
I'm having a Tek 3 remap for my newage WRX with full decat and sti panel filter. Give us your votes and views on:-
Xtreme scoobies - Pat "the mapper" - £500 - cant edit my poll so tick here for Pat
Powerstation - £550
BR Developments - Bob Rawle (obviously) - £650
TSL - £650
API - Pat "the mapper" - £650
Xtreme scoobies - Pat "the mapper" - £500 - cant edit my poll so tick here for Pat
Powerstation - £550
BR Developments - Bob Rawle (obviously) - £650
TSL - £650
API - Pat "the mapper" - £650
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20 January 2005, 05:39 PM
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How useful is the avcr to someone (like me) with no idea how to set/change set ups?? Also is this controller capable of being used safely on a newage ??
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20 January 2005, 05:43 PM
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How useful is the avcr to someone (like me) with no idea how to set/change set ups?? Also is this controller capable of being used safely on a newage ??
ive got one at 1.1bar which i never use and one at 1.45bar which is on all the time 
, when i added my avcr to a tek 3 map it was an amazing difference but if you get done at once you will never really see the difference the avcr can make
20 January 2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
i leave mine alone, i paid to have it fitted and setup. once fitted it alows fine tuning of the boost in the lower gears plus it alows for 2 boost settings ive got one at 1.1bar which i never use and one at 1.45bar which is on all the time , when i added my avcr to a tek 3 map it was an amazing difference but if you get done at once you will never really see the difference the avcr can make
ive got one at 1.1bar which i never use and one at 1.45bar which is on all the time , when i added my avcr to a tek 3 map it was an amazing difference but if you get done at once you will never really see the difference the avcr can make ahhhh!!! More money!!! I thought the remap would be the end of it!!
20 January 2005, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by austen_wrx
ahhhh!!! More money!!! I thought the remap would be the end of it!!
20 January 2005, 11:42 PM
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had the same car(no changes) mapped by 2 of the above
had to pay for Bob to fix all the cell errors I was getting after the first remap ( every other week ), the constant amber on the knocklink didn't worry me too much till Bob said check the leds as his det cans showed much more .... all red's were bust :0
wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't visited the first mapper serveral times with the problems
if I could only show you the amount of email's Br has sent me, and most none map related.... cam sensor, air filter, oil catch can to name a few
and yet agin when the vf35 arrives in the post Br will be sorting it out
good things come to those who wait
Rich My02 wrx
had to pay for Bob to fix all the cell errors I was getting after the first remap ( every other week ), the constant amber on the knocklink didn't worry me too much till Bob said check the leds as his det cans showed much more .... all red's were bust :0
wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't visited the first mapper serveral times with the problems
if I could only show you the amount of email's Br has sent me, and most none map related
.... cam sensor, air filter, oil catch can to name a fewand yet agin when the vf35 arrives in the post Br will be sorting it out
good things come to those who wait
Rich My02 wrx
21 January 2005, 07:40 AM
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Once you have paid the initial amount for the map and licience, how much are subsequent maps, and will any ecutek agent/mapper carry out the work, even if you didn't buy the original licience and map from them?
21 January 2005, 09:25 AM
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Rich: Sounds like your engine was in a precarious condition and you got it sorted before it hurt you in the pocket badly.
There are "experts " out there and flowery talkers but sadly too few mappers who totally understand what they are doing and the implications. This is one reason for the high number of Subaru engine failures.
I have lost count of the times that Bob mapped the STi Wagon when it had the Link but power output climbed steadily from 417 bhp to 585 bhp along with other mods and changes and Bob was a very signifigant part of that.
I had one mishap one Sunday at Elvington when a plug insulator broke and took out a valve and valve seat. In part that may have been because I decided to tinker with the map.
Paying a little bit more to have the car mapped by a man with tremendous practical knowledge, ability and track record is a better option than a cheaper dodgy map and a potential engine rebuild.
There are "experts " out there and flowery talkers but sadly too few mappers who totally understand what they are doing and the implications. This is one reason for the high number of Subaru engine failures.
I have lost count of the times that Bob mapped the STi Wagon when it had the Link but power output climbed steadily from 417 bhp to 585 bhp along with other mods and changes and Bob was a very signifigant part of that.
I had one mishap one Sunday at Elvington when a plug insulator broke and took out a valve and valve seat. In part that may have been because I decided to tinker with the map.
Paying a little bit more to have the car mapped by a man with tremendous practical knowledge, ability and track record is a better option than a cheaper dodgy map and a potential engine rebuild.
21 January 2005, 09:29 AM
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my 1st re-map was powerstation with full de-cat,got 251 bhp on my00 uk
now,ive added headers and K+N57i and am getting 'bob' to re-do it tomorrow(saturday 22nd),also got some 550cc injectors ready for my future mods,ie turbo,tmic etc.
will fit them before this session as well.
will let u know 23rd,when i get back ;-)
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now,ive added headers and K+N57i and am getting 'bob' to re-do it tomorrow(saturday 22nd),also got some 550cc injectors ready for my future mods,ie turbo,tmic etc.
will fit them before this session as well.
will let u know 23rd,when i get back ;-)
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21 January 2005, 10:32 AM
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Bob is currently remapping my P1, I have no complaints. He has a lot of knowledge and is very patient. I would recommend him to anyone.
Not used any of the other mappers mentioned so can not comment.
Not used any of the other mappers mentioned so can not comment.
21 January 2005, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
had the same car(no changes) mapped by 2 of the above
had to pay for Bob to fix all the cell errors I was getting after the first remap ( every other week ), the constant amber on the knocklink didn't worry me too much till Bob said check the leds as his det cans showed much more .... all red's were bust :0
wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't visited the first mapper serveral times with the problems
if I could only show you the amount of email's Br has sent me, and most none map related.... cam sensor, air filter, oil catch can to name a few
and yet agin when the vf35 arrives in the post Br will be sorting it out
good things come to those who wait
Rich My02 wrx
had to pay for Bob to fix all the cell errors I was getting after the first remap ( every other week ), the constant amber on the knocklink didn't worry me too much till Bob said check the leds as his det cans showed much more .... all red's were bust :0
wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't visited the first mapper serveral times with the problems
if I could only show you the amount of email's Br has sent me, and most none map related
.... cam sensor, air filter, oil catch can to name a fewand yet agin when the vf35 arrives in the post Br will be sorting it out
good things come to those who wait
Rich My02 wrx
So which one caused all the errors? Just so i dont go there
21 January 2005, 12:16 PM
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Just remembered...when i bought my car the PowerFc was mapped by BR, and the map was kack...do a search there is a post flying around..where they admited mapping the car to a safe level, hence £2000 spent on the mods brought the car from 220bhp to 240bhp.! 
I think when you go somewhere like that..they will not map you car correctly as they do not want to take the chance of you blowing up your engine..hence the safe map....
Recently i have been working with Paul for my map, luckly he is not too far for me so i can drive up to him if i have an issue..and over time i think i am now nearly happy with my map
Anyway...i bough the car, ran it to Andy to have the initial Map...then 2nd map was done by Pavlo...though this is for the PowerFC...
Though from the above i have heard of Pat, and he is considered as a good mapper...
Sam
I think when you go somewhere like that..they will not map you car correctly as they do not want to take the chance of you blowing up your engine..hence the safe map....
Recently i have been working with Paul for my map, luckly he is not too far for me so i can drive up to him if i have an issue..and over time i think i am now nearly happy with my map
Anyway...i bough the car, ran it to Andy to have the initial Map...then 2nd map was done by Pavlo...though this is for the PowerFC...
Though from the above i have heard of Pat, and he is considered as a good mapper...
Sam
21 January 2005, 12:28 PM
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Sam,
Do you have a green MY98 bought in Surrey? Was the previous owner a guy called Mark?
If so, double check the information, as the Power FC in that was not supplied by nor was it initally mapped by BR Developments. I won't name the company, as it's not my place to do so, but I did have lengthy chats with Mark about it.
If it's the same car, the reason the initial mapper put such a conservative map on it, was due to the levels of noise from the engine!
Do you have a green MY98 bought in Surrey? Was the previous owner a guy called Mark?
If so, double check the information, as the Power FC in that was not supplied by nor was it initally mapped by BR Developments. I won't name the company, as it's not my place to do so, but I did have lengthy chats with Mark about it.
If it's the same car, the reason the initial mapper put such a conservative map on it, was due to the levels of noise from the engine!
21 January 2005, 12:34 PM
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My appologies...just checked the invoice..was RC Developments.. 
So the above revaltes to RC Developements...I shall shutup now.
Yep car was bought from Mark, who then had the Piston Slap and other issues resolved from Cheam Motors..
ps: the engine of the car is superb as all AndyF, Pavlo and Rob who have worked on my car will confirm...
Also the car is now pushing near 340bhp
Sam
So the above revaltes to RC Developements...I shall shutup now.
Yep car was bought from Mark, who then had the Piston Slap and other issues resolved from Cheam Motors..
ps: the engine of the car is superb as all AndyF, Pavlo and Rob who have worked on my car will confirm...
Also the car is now pushing near 340bhp
Sam
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21 January 2005, 01:20 PM
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since this is on topic! I had my car mapped at TSL and it feels great i must say, but I was told that the mapper doesnt like mapping over 300bhp on standard internals, and so didnt push it, will be fitting a APS TMIC on Sunday, I want to know who can I use to remap the car that bit further and to take the advantage of the new TMIC? also will this be the cheaper price as it will be a second remap? or does that only count if you go back to the same person? as i thought that once you pay for the licensing all you then pay for is the mapping?
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21 January 2005, 01:23 PM
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also will this be the cheaper price as it will be a second remap? or does that only count if you go back to the same person? as i thought that once you pay for the licensing all you then pay for is the mapping?
21 January 2005, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SamUK
I think when you go somewhere like that..they will not map you car correctly as they do not want to take the chance of you blowing up your engine..hence the safe map....
