RICH WILD

Wizardly,

For starters I have a knocklink which I think is an essential item for anyone even contemplating high boost.

I also have several cold air feeds (mini bonnet scoop, pipe from inner wing taking air from side of foglight and inner morette headlight removed) to get as much cold air in as poss.

My turbo is also blanketed on the exhaust side to keep UBTs down

I have an uprated (MRT) top mount intercooler with an enlarged intecooler scoop and Samco intercooler hoses and I ALWAYS run Optimax with 100ml NF per fillup.

I also use STP Fuel system cleaner regularly and change my plugs every 3000 miles (Iridium ones).

For added safety I also have a Lambdalink and Electronic EGT gauge.

I have actually experimented with the car up to 1.8 bar before, but usually run 1.4 to 1.5 day to day as I think 1.8 is a bit much. I was lighting lights high up on the knocklink and as soon as that happens, if the ECU starts retarding, any further boost increase is a waste of time.

So, I've pretty much done everything I can to combat det. I think ignition timing is the weak link now. A mappable ECU would let me run a lot more advance and would help get my torque up into the 300s rather than a lowly 295.

I'm still keeping the standard ECU for now though as I'm seeing just how far I CAN go. Porting the headers and fitting a stainless uppipe is next on the agenda as that should give me a bit more top end and hopefully take me over the magic 350.

After that....who knows?

Cheers

Rich

[Edited by RICH WILD - 10/1/2003 2:24:36 PM]

Colin P

What's my Re-Map options on a MY97 UK turbo?

From what I have read on here most of them are for 93-96 and 98 on.

Col

Adam M

nonsense.

most are on 99 onwards since the phase 2 cars are easier to remap by way of the ecutek.

If you want to tune yours, contact scoty, pavlo or david wallis, all of whom can supply the scooby ecu which is a remap for your ecu through the post I believe.

madmoog

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Sorry to hijack this thread a little but do I have similar options with a MY97 STi3 (wagon)?

madmoog

RICH WILD

Adam,

I thought the scooby ECUs were only available for 93-96 models.
They certainly used to be.

Colin,

What do you want a remap for anyway? What are your mods?

Rich

Adam M

perhaps I stand corrected.

it has been known to happen many times.

the board hasnt been developed yet, but it is the same technology as that used for the older four plug ecus.

Watch this space, I think you will find they will be under development.

In the meantime, get yourself a link!

DreXeL

There's also the PE 'Phase 1 conversion', and also UNICHIP. I'm going to go for a UNICHIP for my '97.

NENO

Adam M, I do hope you are correct about somone developing a board for the 97/98 owners - that would be great news

Where did you hear it from and who's developing it?

dougies549

Hi Colin

You could alway's go for the Link |Ecu as well, that is the route that i have taken on a MY97 TURBO. wITH mOD'S

Cheers Dougie

scrappydog

Is the Unichip a piggyback unit within the ECU box or does it splice into the loom?

Andy

leeps

i hope there is some development for the 97-98 cos
im feeling pretty frustrated that the scoobyecu is pre97
then 99 onwards they have the ecutek .... sigh

need a cost effective solution for my car :>

leeps

nom

I think Unichip (splices into the loom, I think) is the simplest 'does it all without problems' solution - as in only adjust what you want, rather than having to try to get the thing to idle well, etc. like needs to be done with the Link.
But it depends what you want - why do you want to remap? There are a lot of 'generic' options that work well if you just want to adjust fuelling, or boost; a collection of these is more expensive than a full ECU if you want to change everything, but if you're just planning on a better boost-profile (for example), you could just get one of the boxes that does that
At least it adds some optons

Andy Tang

iTrader: (3)

All cars:

Prodrive
Unichip
Link
Motec
GEMS
Pectel

MY99-MY03

EcuTek

MY92-96

ScoobyECU

If I had a MY97/98 car I would get a Link ECU, but only because I've seen some fantastic results with Moe's old car!

k9any

Hi Colin P

I also have a MY97......when I was thinkning about upgrading my chip i was told that i could easily get to around the 300BHP figure using my standard ECU chip making sure that the fuel/air mixture was correct.

That is really all i wanted to do anyway, after 300BHP then I was told i would need something like the Link etc.

At the moment I have a full HKS exhaust from turbo back and Blitz Induction kit....dunno how much BHP i'm running but will do after next wednesday as it may be going on the rollers.

Ray

cube

There is also the GReddy E-Manage

Cube.

RICH WILD

k9any,

I am presently at 344bhp and 295lbsft on a 97 UK Turbo on the standard ECU so whoever advised you of that is wrong.

Granted, it's not as good as it COULD be if I had it fully remapped but just goes to show what is possible with the OEM ECU

Cheers

Rich

leeps

Hey rich

i know u probably get this many times but how did u get that?
what mods gave the most performance and did u have to
upgrade ur brakes with that kinda power :>

leeps

Colin P

Rich
Have you changed some ECU settings?

Col

k9any

Hi Rich

yeah ure right rich....I meant to say that getting up to the 300BHP figure with standard chip is realativily easy without spending a huge amount of money....after £300BHP is wen u get into spending some serious cash to get those extra horses.

By the way we have met...ures is the green MY97 with quad light conversion....i met you at Jap Innov....remember?...you were helping Dave in figuring out why My 97 Wagon (Blue with gold wheels) was running at only 7PSI on full boost....figured it out to be a missing restrictor in the pipe.

Regards

Ray

RICH WILD

Leeps,

I'll mail you with a list of my mods, and yes, you would be best with uprated brakes

Colin p,

The only thing changed on the ECU is a HKS fuel cut defender. Boost is controlled via a HKS boost controller.

Ray,

Yes you are right, up to 280 is relatively easy, after that it starts getting fairly pricey, to get it reliable it does anyway.
Yes that's right, it was me that was there that time. Didn't realise it was you.

Cheers

Rich

catalunya199

i have a 97 and it seems to be a nightmare getting it remapped i keep hearing different things about our ecu and what works with it and this thread made it worse with all these other makes but ive found out a few more things.

so lets cut to the chase what one would you get for a 97

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2 Rich Wild : Are you still on T04 turbine or have you changed it (been looking today how to bolt on T05 from my96 on my98 but it looks like it won't go that easy)...how did you sorted fueling part?

PS. Also would like to see your mods list (mail is ok)...thnx upfront

RICH WILD

Hi CeeDee

I'm on a TD05FE, TD04 only good for about 280ish reliably. It's a fairly straightforward swap actually.

fuelling wise, just uprated pump. Regularly use injector cleaner and always Optimax and 100ml NF per fillup. I'll mail you my spec.

Cheers

Rich

Fredysan

Rich:

You got 344 HP by using a TD05 and a HKS boost controller. At the side of the fuel system, You only replace the fuel pump? or Did you made other changes?

Regards

leeps

i think why im also hoping for a scoobyecu development is that
link and unichip are expensive compared to the scoobyecu ...
is there any cheap alternatives for the my98 ecu ???

leeps

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2 Rich Wild : Thnx for spec...as for turbine...well 96 TD05 have L intake while TD04 have straight one...and that wouldn't be much of a problem if intake was same size...but it certanly doesnt look same...i can be totaly wrong on this though. No one would be more happy than me if i could just swap/bolt on TD05 instead TD04...i can live with TD05 amount of lag in trade for 1k rpm more..My old 96 with TD05 was almost the same at 5k rpm as it was on 6,5k rpm while TD04 runs out of steam after 5,8k rpm...I do have HKS AFR and FCD and i would like to run at 1,2b and according to your mods i do not need (it would be nice but...) remap...

RICH WILD

Fredysan,

The only fuelling mod has been the fuel pump. Injectors are standard. I use 98 RON optimax though and 100ml NF per fillup and also uprated topmount intercooler helps reduce inlet temps. i wouldn't be as happy running that power on an OEM top mount.

Leeps,

If ScoobyECU do a 97-98 version, that would be great news for us 97-98 owners. I'd certainly get one. The alternatives at the moment are very expensive.

CeeDee,

You are right, the TD05 comes with a 90 degree inlet, so you can either change the coverfor a front entry one or you can have it converted. Andy Forrest on this BB did mine after I sourced a 2nd hand TD05. If you sent him an 05, I'm sure he'd do it for you.
Then it's a pretty easy swap. I'd change the inlet pipe at the same time though. It's a good modification.

Cheers

Rich

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anyone have any pictures of converted part or whole converted TD05 ?

I had scoobyecu in my 96 and yes ithere was one for 97/8 it would be first thing to buy again...

wizardly

RichWild,

Cracking results for a standard ECU, but how do you overcome det/knock etc? I'd assume you would have started getting that on standard ignition adavance...?

wizardly

Cheers Richard, much appreciated

So the ECU is still controlling advance to the best of its abilities and you're helping it by cooling charge as much as possible. Sounds fair enough.