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Old 23 August 2002, 04:15 PM
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Anyone done this, have any advice , reccomendations , costs etc.
Very interested in taking this further, but need to know any pitfalls...

Currently have an offer of a multipoint injected system with a 92 lt tank ( fitting in spare wheel hole) for about 1.5k. fitted.

Sounds a lot but when you do 100 miles a day just for work!, the prospect of it costing me about £40 a week is v.nice.

All advice , comments welcome.

Cheers John

PS- excuse me if this thread is elsewhere but i couldn't find it for the life of me.

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Old 24 August 2002, 08:55 AM
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I would like some info on this one
Old 24 August 2002, 09:57 AM
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I've emailed Shell to ask if there are any issues with running turbocharged engines on autogas. I'll post their reply here when (if?) I receive one.
Old 25 August 2002, 12:20 AM
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Not yet, I'm afraid
The current LPG system uses a carburettor-style vaporiser, to deliver the fuel into the airflow. This system works fine, but can't cope with the massive pressure (airflow) increases of a turbo'd engine. Couple this with the odder nature of the Subaru flat-4, and it just doesn't work

The good news is that the injector-based system, which is currently on test in about 4 Impreza turbos (and 1 WRX, I believe) works fine with the turbos. So, either be patient (a couple of months) or buy a normally aspirated one. Personally, I'd wait

By the way, I'm driving a Legacy 2.5 on LPG and have been very happy. The guy who converted my car is in the process of converting his 2.5 Legacy to the injector system and we're going to do some compare and contrasts, when he's done. If you want info on the results and/or want me to let you know when he can do the injector-based systems on turbos, mail me
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I've spoken to a guy in High wycombe ( Bucks) and he is 100% confident that a Testoni?? Italian kit can accomodate Turbos without issue, install price was however 1500+vat installed, he very helpful and very very positive, 2 days to sort it out with a loan car too.
he also mentioned it was 90% transportable so when you sell up you can take it with you bar a few nominal items and have it installed in the next car
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Yup - that's the system which is being trialed on Impreza's at the moment. Still issues with mating it to the ECU, but it's a continuing process.

Spoke to Jo yesterday and he's still setting his system up. Once that's done (couple of weeks) then I should be taking my Legacy up there for some comparisons
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Mike S_14 is running LPG on his 200SX. And he is pushing out a fair bit of BHP !
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Jonto is there any figures 4 the 200?
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Reply from Shell Autogas to my question: Are there any issues with running turbo-charged engines on Autogas?

There is no reason why it should not be OK, but many companies do not offer this as an option. I suggest you try Powertorque on 02476 635757.

Whatever you do make sure it is a multipoint system and that the tank has a pressure relief valve.

Henry Clayton
Shell Global Autogas
tel; + 44 1202 594440
fax; + 44 1202 594090
mob; + 44 7718 602867
I've checked Powertorque's website and followed links to Autogas fitters but couldn't find any kits for turbo engines, either Imprezas, Legacies, EVOs or VR4s. Kits available for 1.8 and 2.0 NA Imprezas, 2.0 and 2.5 NA Legacies.
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Long conversations with this chap.....
He is 100% plus positive of their kits use on Turbo's
(although he hasn't done an Impreza yet!)
I personally think the issue will come doen to ECU rather than anything else.
As shell suggest , multipoint + release valve are part of this kit.

Email from him below....

Dear Sir

Ref; Subaru Impreza ( 1994-96 ) 2.0 litre turbocharged (intercooler) 4cyl

To install an BRC Digital single point system with up to 70
Litre ring tank in spare wheel well. Or 80L in boot.
£1,080 to £1,180 x Vat
OR : To install Logic Bygas sequential Multi-point system with up to a 60-litre ring tank to the spare wheel well £1,395 + Vat or 92L tank £1500. + vat
(These systems is of the highest quality systems on the market
It is designed specifically to your vehicle).

OR a budget System of which some conversion garages use is £900. + Vat
Which we don't recommend for some Vehicles

Depending on conversion used and tanks size used


Thank you for your interest,


Regards

Mike Ingram sales
www.chilterngascars.co.uk

JRRS1
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