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Old 28 April 2015, 07:17 PM
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Default Lots of movement at rear of car

Helppp please peeps

Ok so its kinda hard to word but there is movement coming from the back end of the car enought to make me worry a lot !! .... As soon as I got back this evening I had the rear bench out to check the shock wasn't loose its that bad.

I noticed this awhile back but wasn't to bad but new the issue was there but today I was worried the back of my spec c was going to give way...

When I originally felt the issue In hand I had the back end of the car up but could see no problems I'm going to have a another look tomoro but I feel I cannot drive the car in with its current predicament.


You feel the issue when

1. Ur slowing down almost about to stop
2. If u pull away slow

It's like the back end is about to drop its not a banging but more like a wobble with a clunk...


I no that is really not descriptive enough but are there bushes I should be checking, the droplinks have not snapped and I gave a good tug on the top of each rear wheel and there solid


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Old 28 April 2015, 07:20 PM
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check rear diff bushes and also ive heard that the driveshaft nut can come loose

mine is also clonking when lifting off gas/pulling away slowly
Old 28 April 2015, 07:50 PM
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Ask a specialist to check round all the bushes and suspension points for play.

Also suspect hub bearings and even loose wheel nuts.
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rear shocks,?
Old 28 April 2015, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
check rear diff bushes and also ive heard that the driveshaft nut can come loose

mine is also clonking when lifting off gas/pulling away slowly

That's a good shout, will be checking driveshafts nuts in the morning, but would think there would be play in wheel when I move side to side which there isn't
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Ask a specialist to check round all the bushes and suspension points for play.

Also suspect hub bearings and even loose wheel nuts.

No specialists near me also don't even wanna take the car off the drive till I no what the issue is
Wheel nuts are not the issue as checked them earlier today before the problem.

Hub bearings...... How would I no ...?
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Originally Posted by bigredrob
rear shocks,?

I've checked the top and bottom its secure, it's not a knocking noise
Old 28 April 2015, 09:30 PM
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Do you get the same feeling in neutral coming to a stop?
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Right been under the rear of the sub today and I really cannot see anything that is loose or out of place. The arb looks fine as do the bushes droplinks seem ok driveshafts in position, hub from what I can see is all conected as it should be and the shock looks fine also

Not sure what to do ??

what I will add though is I just realised it seems to only do this with more weight in the car so like today I took her out couldn't get the issue to repeat itself however I've noticed that the car dose do it when there is a extra person in there such as last night

Thoughts
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Geometry??
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Originally Posted by Cpt Jack Sparrow
Geometry??

Car had a geo set up when I bought it less that a year ago I don't think that it would cause this sort of issue if it was the case.

feels like somthing is about to give way but just cannot see anything un towards..
Old 29 April 2015, 12:21 PM
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Check the large bushes on the trailing arm connecting it to the car. Had this happen on my golf and felt like the back end was self steering, if that makes any sense
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If you can't see it, you are going to have to drive it carefully to a trustworthy garage, get them to put it on the ramps, unweight it, (lift it off it's wheels) and check for play in all mountings/bushes/bolts/pivots.

You obviously can't find it with the weight of the car on the wheels.
Old 29 April 2015, 06:40 PM
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You haven't got a flat tyre have you?
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You can't tell if bushes are worn by looking at them. Unless there total f***ed,
Really need it up on a ramp and get in there with a lever bar and check for play on all the bushes.
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Originally Posted by kevo10
Check the large bushes on the trailing arm connecting it to the car. Had this happen on my golf and felt like the back end was self steering, if that makes any sense

Will double check been raining most of the day but managed to spend a hour or so looking under her , jacked up the back end pretty hight and had a good look under there nothing seems out of place :/
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Originally Posted by 300gnspitzer
You haven't got a flat tyre have you?
No
Old 29 April 2015, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by InTurbo
You can't tell if bushes are worn by looking at them. Unless there total f***ed,
Really need it up on a ramp and get in there with a lever bar and check for play on all the bushes.

Ok thanks, tbh I like doing all my own work but getting abit stuck with this one,
Old 29 April 2015, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
If you can't see it, you are going to have to drive it carefully to a trustworthy garage, get them to put it on the ramps, unweight it, (lift it off it's wheels) and check for play in all mountings/bushes/bolts/pivots.

You obviously can't find it with the weight of the car on the wheels.

i cannot trust anyone with my scoob

I jacked the whole back end up via the diff so could have a proper look under there, no play in the wheels suspension looks and feels solid and done up as well as all the arms and shafts and arb and drop links.

But as you have pointed out it would be better on a ramp to have a better look about I guess i just like doing things myself.
Old 29 April 2015, 09:28 PM
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Has it got dccd? There is a known diff clunk issue, which is cured by fitting uprated bushes to the diff bracket.
Old 29 April 2015, 09:29 PM
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Swap your front wheels for the rear / see how it reacts
Old 29 April 2015, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jazzyjembreaze
Swap your front wheels for the rear / see how it reacts

Not the wheels I had the issue when the car was stock, I've since swaped wheels and the issue is still there
Old 29 April 2015, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisp11981
Has it got dccd? There is a known diff clunk issue, which is cured by fitting uprated bushes to the diff bracket.

I would have thought if it was the diff It would happen all the time not just when there are a cupple of people in it... Yes the sub is a spec c so dose have dccd.

It's like the car steps sideways a inch or so with abit of a clunk, u can feel the car do it that it my main issue, strange that it only happens when there is a passenger maybe because there is more weight on the side I belive the issue is on ..hmmmmm
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wishbone bushes ?
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My blobeye is doing similar. Excessive movement in the inverted shock absorber tubes due to lack of grease. Suspect the tubes are damaged on mine so getting some new rear shockers.
It feels like the car drops an inch and realigns itself when you stop or slow down ready to stop.
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Originally Posted by Clarkyvrs
My blobeye is doing similar. Excessive movement in the inverted shock absorber tubes due to lack of grease. Suspect the tubes are damaged on mine so getting some new rear shockers.
It feels like the car drops an inch and realigns itself when you stop or slow down ready to stop.

Interesting, could be the same issue, me and a friend spent a cupple of hours under the car with the *** in the air yesterday looking at all the bushes and really couldn't see any issues... I did look at the shocks but visually they look fine, bolts tight top and bottom but I guess u cannot see what is internally going on...

Is there anyway to to test the shock if I was to remove it ??
Old 01 May 2015, 11:28 AM
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Difficult to test for on the car I think. I'm going off what other people have described and it seems the same.

http://forums.sidc.co.uk/topic/158555-my-solution-to-knocking-struts-my05stiwrx/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zYiP4DG_OQU
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