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Old 23 April 2015, 06:13 PM
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Hey all, so my UK turbo 2000 year 2000 is suffering from no power threw out every gear. You hear the turbo spool up but it just didn't give you that pull.
Things I've replaced/tried

New spark plugs.
New maf sensor.
New coil packs.
New turbo intake pipe.
Replaced all vac pipes with high quality silicone hose.
Replaced knock sensor.
Cleaned Boost solenoid and Map sensor.

Really am giving up now. Any help??
Car is standard
Old 23 April 2015, 06:41 PM
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Had it to a decent specialist?
Old 23 April 2015, 11:21 PM
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Not yet as can do most things myself but with this I think I'm going to have to. It feels like 150bhp not 211 like its ment to be
Old 23 April 2015, 11:23 PM
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Sounds like a vac leak to me.
Old 23 April 2015, 11:24 PM
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I've replaced all vac hoses I know to, I do get a funny little scream noise under boost
Old 23 April 2015, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby_impreza
I've replaced all vac hoses I know to, I do get a funny little scream noise under boost
I get that too, she normally gets over it by 3rd gear.

You should probably get the thing looked at.
Old 23 April 2015, 11:28 PM
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Think I'm going to have to, I've tried basically everything I can think off and nothing
Old 24 April 2015, 12:09 AM
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Boost leak, weak actuator, vacuum lines perished or off, split intake, could be turbo related, could be map related reigning in the timing, blocked cat, could be many things

If you've tried the obvious and pretty confident on the spanners and know what to look for, then I'd bite the bullet and take it somewhere for diagnosis.
Old 24 April 2015, 09:52 AM
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Yes, get it diagnosed properly. If it's a vac leak it could easily be running lean...which leads to the dreaded detonation
Old 24 April 2015, 10:04 AM
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Thanks for all the comments, gna have to get it booked in and looked at. The car doesn't miss/hessitate at all it just feels 150bhp not 211.
Old 24 April 2015, 10:07 AM
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have you got a boost gauge fitted and does it run a standard DV ?
Old 24 April 2015, 10:12 AM
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Hi yes got a boost gauge and baileys dump valve, boost gauge hits around 0.9 bar fine but just didn't pull, have also tried blanking off the dv but still the same
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Sure you haven't just got used to it
Old 24 April 2015, 10:29 AM
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100% not just got used to it, I struggle to overtake my friends corsa.....
Old 24 April 2015, 12:34 PM
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Seized brake calipers?
Old 24 April 2015, 12:49 PM
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Brakes apear to be working fine, I'm looking at the car again now just cant see nothing it could be
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Mentioning the brakes.. The abs light is on, would this cause anything? Ie limp mode or anything
Old 24 April 2015, 01:08 PM
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Scream noise on boost could be an air leak post turbo which would make it run rich and work the turbo harder which could cause a power loss even if boost is made. A screeching noise might be that the turbo is gone and the compressor or turbine wheels are hitting their housings. However if you are getting the boost it seems unlikely you could be that low on power just from running a bit rich or lean.

Have you checked that you are actually firing on all 4 cylinders? Pull each ignition lead in turn and check for poorer idle. After this though I'd suggest you look at more mechanical issues, do a compression test and check the cam-belt timing because if you have spark and fuel to all cylinders and 0.9bar boost you'd be hard pushed to be that low on power without something amiss mechanically.

Finally although unlikely, a mismatched gearbox and diff could have been fitted previously which would significantly increase rolling resistance (and would shortly break) but you'd be able to tell because it would feel terrible to drive at speed. In the same line of thought, ensure all tyres are the same size & correct pressures.

What RPM are you making 0.9bar of boost by? This might be a good indication of what is wrong.
Old 24 April 2015, 01:12 PM
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Never tried to read ABS codes, but this might work:

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/...ead-abs-codes/

Have you checked there are no stored ECU codes? Does the Check engine light work and has it not been disabled?
Old 24 April 2015, 01:14 PM
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Thanks for that matt,

You say check if firing, never done this before how do I do it..

I did do the oil cap test to see if air pulsed out or smoke and it was just pulses of air
Old 24 April 2015, 01:32 PM
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No cel codes check engine light works
Old 24 April 2015, 04:58 PM
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If the brakes are ok,pads or handbrake shoes not binding,car rolls ok? Clutch slipping?
Old 24 April 2015, 05:01 PM
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car rolls fine, had a new clutch about 2 months ago
Old 24 April 2015, 05:14 PM
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Did you check intercooler Ypipe? Prone to split as are the intake pipe
Old 24 April 2015, 05:42 PM
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Yes checked that car is sending me crazy really is
Old 24 April 2015, 06:06 PM
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Had the airbox off,checked filter? Or nothing strange left in there?
Fuel filter?
Old 24 April 2015, 06:24 PM
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airbox etc is ok, havnt checked fuel filter. would this cause such a problem?
Old 24 April 2015, 06:31 PM
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as was asked, when is it making 0.9 bar, what RPM and how long does it hold this ?
Old 24 April 2015, 06:39 PM
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Poss hole in intercooler? Need to get the boost pipework pressure tested or smoke tested to see any leaks.
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sorry jdm, its hitting around 0.9 at around 3000 rpm but in 3rd its hitting 1.2-1.3 bar


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