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Old 21 December 2014, 05:05 PM
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Hey folks just wondering what your think

When in traffic at normal oil temps I was getting 1.6 bar oil pressure (via defi) and 2.7ish bar at 30 mph

Is this quite low? I'm currently using motul 15w 50 (which I have always used)

Thanks

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Old 21 December 2014, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
Hey folks just wondering what your think

When in traffic at normal oil temps I was getting 1.6 bar oil pressure (via defi) and 2.7ish bar at 30 mph

Is this quite low? I'm currently using motul 15w 50 (which I have always used)

Thanks

Steve
Mine will drop slightly lower than 2 bar at hot idle but runs around 5 to 5.5 when driving
I use millers 5w 40 But have an oil cooler so the oil is always around 85 degrees
Old 21 December 2014, 05:47 PM
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Cheers for the info tubbs

Ah right mine tonight has seen 95 just normal town driving and sat around 2.5 is bar at 30mph

Does yours reach 5 bar at 30 or are you on the motorway?

You think the thickness of the oil has anything to do with it?

Steve
Old 21 December 2014, 05:54 PM
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Yes it will be higher as your speed rises. Try driving at 30mph in 4th, then third, to rev the engine more, see what you get then.

And yes, the pressure will depend in part on the oil's viscosity. That's why it goes down when the oil is hot
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
Cheers for the info tubbs

Ah right mine tonight has seen 95 just normal town driving and sat around 2.5 is bar at 30mph

Does yours reach 5 bar at 30 or are you on the motorway?

You think the thickness of the oil has anything to do with it?

Steve
Mine does rise above 85 in traffic but once moving quickly goes back to 85 this is due to oil cooler though.
I have no idea what it is at 30 mph all I do know is under normal driving at motorway speeds its around 5.5.
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Why are you all speaking in mph with regard to oil pressure?
Surely RPM is a better medium.
30mph in 1st I see 120psi, 30 in 6th I see 20psi
Old 21 December 2014, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by boosted
Why are you all speaking in mph with regard to oil pressure?
Surely RPM is a better medium.
30mph in 1st I see 120psi, 30 in 6th I see 20psi
I agree,once revved in neutral the oil pressure should quickly shoot up when warm
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Why are you speaking in psi were not in the states

It's easier (well for me) to say driving at 30 in 4th I get 2.5ish bar

You bouncing it off the limiter in first that's 8.57bar?

Steve



Originally Posted by boosted
Why are you all speaking in mph with regard to oil pressure?
Surely RPM is a better medium.
30mph in 1st I see 120psi, 30 in 6th I see 20psi
Old 21 December 2014, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
Why are you speaking in psi were not in the states

It's easier (well for me) to say driving at 30 in 4th I get 2.5ish bar
You bouncing it off the limiter in first that's 8.57bar?

Steve
Because psi will confuse people like you.
My gauge is in psi.
Now you bring 4th gear into the equation, great. Is that on a 4.444 or 3.9 ratio diff? 5 or 6 speed?
Rpm is the constant, not the VS. You would never make an engine mapper if you can't look at engine speed when looking at an engine variable.
I doubt 30 is anywhere near the limiter in 1st....
120psi is 8.16 bar.
Your engines probably knackered, I recommend a full rebuild and a remap, Walbro fuel pump too

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Old 21 December 2014, 06:43 PM
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People like me haha get a grip sure I can work out a simple equation of 14 psi equals 1 bar

Don't be starting your pish on diffs if you ain't got nothing informative to say hush that beak of yours eh!

And stop buying pish guages from the US thinking your in fast and furious

You sure you know what your taking about? Now my fuel pump is ****er haha

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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
I agree,once revved in neutral the oil pressure should quickly shoot up when warm
Correct, oil pressure (at normal operating temp) is directly proportional to engine RPM.
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
People like me haha get a grip sure I can work out a simple equation of 14 psi equals 1 bar

Don't be starting your pish on diffs if you ain't got nothing informative to say hush that beak of yours eh!

And stop buying pish guages from the US thinking your in fast and furious
My gauge is old British leyland lorry air brake pressure gauge.
Your the one coming over all French with this bar nonsense.
14.503 psi in a bar

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eh no wonder your reading that high your taking your reading off a ****ing lorry and not a car?
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Originally Posted by boosted
My gauge is old British leyland lorry air brake pressure gauge.
Your the one coming over all French with this bar nonsense.
14.7 psi in a bar
14.5037738 to be exact actually
I do agree oil pressure should be measured against specific engine load as opposed to speed. However you could have been a little more diplomatic.
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Originally Posted by Maz
14.5037738 to be exact actually
I do agree oil pressure should be measured against specific engine load as opposed to speed. However you could have been a little more diplomatic.
Fed up being diplomatic. I know what I'm on about
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
. 7 among friends

eh no wonder your reading that high your taking your reading off a ****ing lorry and not a car?
Nope. My gauge is off a lorry air brake system. A british one at that.

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Old 21 December 2014, 06:59 PM
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In the end cheers for the info guys

I know I sort of need an engine rebuild remap and fuel pump - thanks to boosted - good comebacks and British is spelled with one T

I'm sure I'll be okay with the above lol if in doubt I'll buy a lorry and compare it to that

Steve
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Originally Posted by boosted
Fed up being diplomatic. I know what I'm on about
There are a lot of knowledgeable people on this forum which greatly helps the users. However being a forum and the written word the only form of communication I think a little tact goes a long way. Interjecting with a flippant dismissal isn't going to endear you to anyone.
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Normal oil pressure for me is 7bar minimum at anything over about 3k once the PRV has opened, usually nearer 8bar.
I would be worried with less
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Originally Posted by Maz
There are a lot of knowledgeable people on this forum which greatly helps the users. However being a forum and the written word the only form of communication I think a little tact goes a long way. Interjecting with a flippant dismissal isn't going to endear you to anyone.
I'm not the one insulting anyone here, I'm just giving factual information as requested my the op.
I've been accused of being dislexic, talking pish and worst of all an American buying American

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Cheers for the info again I've never had that

Never had that on my old 2.0 blob running 470? With defi genome aswell plumbed into the oe oil pressure slot

Could be down to the motul 300v 15w 50?

I'll get it warm and give it a good rev in neutral and see what my max pressure is and report back

Steve
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Where are you taking oil pressure reading from? I take mine from the rear plug right by the breather on the block. I am running 15-40 oil.
However I run a modified oil pump

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I take mine from under the alternator

Temp under the intercooler

I run a standard oil pump

It's only got this bad since the weather has come in but I do live up in Aberdeen lol

Edited to add I have still go the oe plug in aswell using the lmf t piece

Might have a look for any leaks

Steve

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Originally Posted by boosted
Where are you taking oil pressure reading from? I take mine from the rear plug right by the breather on the block. I am running 15-40 oil.
However I run a modified oil pump
does the modified pump run at higher pressure??

6 bar seems about the norm at hot running for imprezas
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Ah that explains it, a toonser...
With colder weather you should get higher oil pressures if anything
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
does the modified pump run at higher pressure??

6 bar seems about the norm at hot running for imprezas
Seems to, I modified it myself naturally. Engine hasn't shat itself yet, so must be a good thing.
90 psi your saying? Up the revs it's more like 100-120 on mine

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Originally Posted by boosted
Seems to, I modified it myself naturally. Engine hasn't shat itself yet, so must be a good thing
always a good thing.

i sometimes seem 8 bar on a cold start in the winter but never when running.

5.5 to 6 bar is the norm
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Well I'm 4 bar on start up cold until the revs die down to idle

I'm. Sure it's down to the oil? This is on a 2.5 though if that makes any difference

Steve
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
Well I'm 4 bar on start up cold until the revs die down to idle

I'm. Sure it's down to the oil? This is on a 2.5 though if that makes any difference

Steve
ahh a 2.5.its fecked then problem solved.

not down to the oil at all id say being that low.

pick up pipe in sump broken or one of the usual poo.5 issues
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Still Goes like the clappers though I'll wait until I see oil everywhere before I decide to rebuild lol

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