bnzi24

Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Please be gentle.

So, I'm looking to build some form of monster. Ideally a drag day car that is still suitable for daily, reliable running. Something that will destroy all on a 1/4 mile romp. I'm not bothered about the BHP figures. They're just numbers. Neck snapping acceleration up to 100MPH is the target here.

But where do you start with such a project? Closed deck 2ltr? 2.5ltr block? Also what mods would be required in order to achieve such a vehicle? Steel H frame con rods, Mahle pistons, uprated headbolts and gas flowed heads. A different turbo, but which type? Etc, I could easily bolt lots of bits together and get some big BHP numbers, that's not what I'm looking for here though.

BBB3

iTrader: (7)

What's your budget?

bnzi24

I do have access to a machine shop complete with a very handy machinist and I'm not looking to build this overnight. It will be an on going project.

So lets say money no object, within reason! I'm not looking to build a full blown rally car as I want it to still be reliable enough to use daily if needed.

BBB3

iTrader: (7)

You in norwich?

bnzi24

I'm out Potter Heigham way, work in Yarmouth.

BBB3

iTrader: (7)

You know matty kendrick?

bnzi24

Nope. I'm relatively new to the area and Scoobys to be honest. Bought my first Classic UK turbo mid last year and now wonder why I've never had one before!!!

beliblisk

iTrader: (16)

500bhp in a classic should do the trick (and some skills i guess).

.....or just buy this:

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...rdly-used.html

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

You're gonna need deep pockets for that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQJ...ature=youtu.be

Shaun

500bhp in a Classic to do sub 3secs to 60. Behave!

beliblisk

iTrader: (16)

Need more power for 3s?

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

So, how much power is required to get under 3 then?

In a classic.

Shaun

Depending upon weight and gearing, yes.

cookstar

iTrader: (6)

Fully stripped running UK 6 speed.

Shaun

Even if you use the "performance calculator" which some say is optimistic, it alludes to 500bhp requiring a car to be 1000kg's kerb weight to get to 60 sub 3secs.

Let's say a Classic comes in at 1235kg's kerb weight, you're then needing over 650bhp to achieve sub 3secs.

Sub 3 seconds is insanely quick.

bustaMOVEs

iTrader: (31)

You need at least 600hp in a classic to break the 3s

Shaun

Fully stripped don't mean ****. What weight?

cuprajake

iTrader: (11)

For the money you'd spend. Buy a gtr lol.

The scoob would prob break after a few launches haha

beliblisk

iTrader: (16)

What calculator says for 1,7 ton gtr with 550bhp?:P
Whats needed in hawk to get under 4 and 3,5?I am planing 500/500....where i might be then?

Thanks

ditchmyster

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You'd be lucky to beat a Type R running 400 with a lardy newage.

Cue micky with the vid of his 330bhp classic whooping a 500+ newage

Shaun

Nothing wrong with so called lardy arsed Newages. Remember what my old SPEC C did at the ScoobySprint final.... Nailed everything!

John Felstead has also just won this years MLR sprint..... In a Newage.

Rob Day

iTrader: (78)

Andy Forest will be under 3 seconds at 1000kg and probably 1200+bhp

ditchmyster

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I'd say that was more down to the driver and a good balance of power and chassis, all well and good having 5/600bhp but not much use if you don't have the skill to take advantage of it, also depends on the course.

I recently competed in a sprint but the course was better suited to smaller cars with short ratios, it was a kin to a go cart track, I was 8 seconds slower than the 3rd placed car over 3 laps, yet on the way home we had a little play and guess who got dusted. well it wasn't me, oh and that was in my lardy newage.

FMJ

iTrader: (2)

Isn't this a bit of a contradiction? To be a high performing drag car you are going to have to do mods that take it far from a daily driver. Maybe make a drag car for the track and buy a comfy car for the road? Or spend £10,000's....

scoobyJim2

Think the gearbox is about 20k on its own

scoobyJim2

I was thinking to get those times theres gonna be alot of launches!
That's where the money comes in,being able to put the power down without things breaking..

scoobyJim2

I'd buy a cheap classic and fit **** loads of nitros to it! Just keep changing the lump when it blows or build an engine to take it

ditchmyster

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If you strapped a 600bhp capable turbo and ancillaries onto a standard classic engine I doubt very much it would make it past the mapping session. If by some miracle it did get off the rollers in one piece it would be like sitting in the middle of a bomb. Then if you managed to nurse it to the drag strip I wouldn't want to be within 100 metres of it because when that beauty gets launched so will the driver, into tiny little pieces all the way down the first 100 metres of the track, it'll be one hell of an explosion when you hit that nitros button.

Be great to watch though.

fat-thomas

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ahhh the ditchy driving god strikes again.
you have the extra lardy and poverty spec newage though, i doubt he wants an estate or a wrx

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Have they upped your medication or something, as you seem unable to read and a little confused as of late.

The point I was attempting to make is you need the right tool for the job, the solution isn't always more power as that only comes into play if you have the space and skill to use it. John is a veteran on the racing scene and appreciates the finer nuances, one of which being sometimes less is more, you'd do well to follow his example.