craigybaby

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Alright chaps just a quick question now the cooler evenings are coming ive noticed the oil temp is around 70c when on a run. My oil cooler is at the front where the air con rad used to be do you guys bother covering them up during the winter as Id imagine it would be doing more bad than good during the cold season

Cheers
Craig

Tidgy

you not got a thermostatic control on it? decent kits come with thermostatic valve that only allow oil to flow when its too hot, so you dont get too cold oil temp issues

fat-thomas

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mine has a thermostatic control on it and doesn't even open in the last week.
also mounted in the inner wing.
be careful oil that's too cold is just as bad as the other extreme

stonejedi

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THIS!!!.SJ.

jura11

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Hi Craig

You need to have thermostatic sandwich plate,please speak with Think automotive or Alyn@AS Performance about the this thermostatic sandwich plate

Without this yours oil temperatures will be in low figures like you have right now,but still during the winter I wouldn't run oil cooler if you are not taking car on the track


Thanks,Jura

craigybaby

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Cheers for the advice guys the oil cooler is I mocal item so I would of thought this was decent quality it was already fitted to the car when I brought it

stonejedi

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Your right It should have one fitted already as Mocal kits are quite comprehensive.SJ.

fat-thomas

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I have a mocal kit very good.

stonejedi

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Nice.SJ.

Tidgy

depends who supplied it, was a kit being supplied on here at one point without one

Steve Whitehorn

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The bodge it and scarper approach...
is cable tie a bit of cardboard infront of it
I will get my coat

trevsjwood

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I'd cover it in winter, regardless of wether it has a thermostat. In cold weather the oil will be stuck at 80c and also if you are running a cold coolant thermostat wont help. Also having the heaters on, all adds up to a cold motor.
Trev

stonejedi

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I would not go as far as to say covering it up,but agree that having heaters on and running a colder coolant thermostat does help keep temps down in general,but as long as the car is being used the way that they were designed forI can't see much of a problem.The problem lies when a uprated oil cooler is fitted in the first place when one is not required at the engine's power level for keeping average engine temps,as the standard oil cooler 9 times out of 10 depending on the BHP level is more then enough to keep your oil temps reasonable and your engine happy.SJ.

craigybaby

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Cheers for all the advice guys will probably investigate further regarding the thermostat etc power wise it's fully forged running 350 atm I might make some sort of shroud up to cover the grill where it sits when the temps outside get into single figures

Tidgy

power can be a guide, but doesn't always mean so. my old classic just ran hot, 100+ on hot days when giving it a bit, and i wouldn't even say thrashing it within an inch of its life. cooler got fitted and engine was still going well 30k later when new owner through it over a hedge and killed it

silver6933

You mean oil warmer. The OEM modine unit is a poor oil cooler.

JGlanzaV

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^ this

Oil warmer it tends to work the wrong way round!

Ripped mine out and just have a thermostatic cooler above the FMIC....

stonejedi

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Its Funny you say that as i have never had problems with them even my friend who is running over 500 bhp at present on his newage,in fact i know of quite a few Subaru's ranging from 450 bhp up that don't run uprated oil coolers and don't have no problems it might just be the case that they run high quality oil 10w60 fully synthetic and coolstats that maybe helping out with the heat exchange and keeping their temps average.SJ.

silver6933

You would be the only one that has that opinion. I'll leave you to it.

Legacyb4-Dan

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so can you replace the standard oil modine with an aftermarket oil cooler kit? I might need to move mine with the headers im trying to use on my legacy

JGlanzaV

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Eh? I was agreeing with your post...

trevsjwood

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the newage oem modine is a good bit of kit and certainly good enough on a car running mid 400s, the only reason to change is track or more power.
Trev

silver6933

My apologies.

maci

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I have a mocal kit installed and no thermostat... Did notice lately low temps of 70-72. I have fitted a small paper in front of it now and temps are back in the mid 90ies I'd advise you to do the same.

trevsjwood

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the key is to monitor temperatures but I would worry if my cooler didn't have a thermostat.
The problem is kitting a car out for track and then running it normally on limited roads in the middle of winter.
Trev

fat-thomas

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mine runs around 90 most of the time now the cooler has been fitted but mine is thermostatic controlled.
obviously on the road I run with fog covers on but if needed can be run like this as I positioned cooler in the airflow

STI Glenn

Had hawkeye spec c cold weather on motorway never went over 75

trevsjwood

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It's obviously not getting any airflow with the fog covers on, unless your thermostat is 90c.
My cooler is in the front and with recent ambient at 14c the oil temp sits firmly at 80c, even with spirited driving. In town traffic it rises toward the high 80's.
Trev

fat-thomas

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its not getting any with fog on. when needed I remove covers like I did at totb