Cornelius

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Just curious, but all those who have suffered the Red Ring Of Death, which way was your Xbox? Standing upright or laying flat?

WRX_Dazza

paul, i asked the very same question last year and got a 50/50 split near enough.

mine was horizontal for the record and have voted !!!!

PS: i got a clip on fan for the new one, which is thermostatically controlled, or can be manually switched on for ripping past milamber on Forza !!! lol

Cornelius

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My brother used to lay his xbox 360 down, and after 20 mins, it would freeze, but he's tried it standing upright and it seems to be better. Have seen additional fan units that plug into the back and uses the power supply so will have to try that

Supercue

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Well mines standing up as there isnt enough cable for it to lie flat lol

Nate

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Don't get these problems with PS3's ....... Maybe Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to inbuild some problems with their products ........ But then, what's new about Microsoft doing that .

And before you say, it can be replaced/fixed under warranty ...... Thats fine, unless it goes 'after' your warranty has run out.

Milamber

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They will fix the RROD no matter what, they don't enforce the warranty period for this fault

zs_phil

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yep they extended the 3 ring warrenty to 3 years which is plenty of time ,by the time they dont fix them xbox's will be down to about £70 for the arcade version as you already own the hard drive .

i stand mine up and had no problems for 2 years now my brother lays his down and been sent back to the shop once for a replacement and also been sent back to microsoft for repair once.

mine is stood on my sky plus box which causes heat but i think because the xbox is stood up air can circulate around the fan holes .

Nate

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Even so, it is still a Pi$$ poor design fault. Have they sorted the cause yet ?

Milamber

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Can't disagree with you there mate.

Apparently the latest chipset runs cooler. Bet it still cooks itself though.

Cornelius

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The 360 has 2 main processors, the CPU and he GPU.

The CPU has a decent sized heatsink, but the GPU is located under the DVD drive, so it's got a feeble heatsink due to lack of space, it isn't exactly efficient and causes the problem.

Also the method of clamping the heatsinks to the processors is cheap and nasty, the use flimsy X-Clamps, with can distort when they get hot, this movement causes solder joints to fail hence the error code 74 (first stage) then the RROD, though E-74 don't always come up on screen.

Microsoft's cure is to use epoxy resin to glue the processors onto the board so they can't vibrate as they get hot

Nate

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Great fix , I think, even though XBOX may have more titles (at the moment), I'll stick with my PS3 still as good, if not better, and it is only the lack of games available that is the real issue.

Supercue

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Thats the whole point

Nate

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No good if you can't play them at all because of the RROD