Advice needed please
12 December 2007, 11:38 AM
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Advice needed please
As you know, I've left Calor for a new job - however, Calor is extremely pi55ed off about it, and heard yesterday that they are trying to fill my old position as quickly as possible so I can't go back! That's how petty it is there!!
Anyway, I've got a forklift truck license, and need it for my new job but Calor won't release it, I've tried calling the company who done the training for a duplicate, but they say as Calor paid for it, they can't give me a copy.
Only done a refresher on the 19th November, so don't really want to have to pay £100 myself to do the course again!!
Anyway, I've got a forklift truck license, and need it for my new job but Calor won't release it, I've tried calling the company who done the training for a duplicate, but they say as Calor paid for it, they can't give me a copy.
Only done a refresher on the 19th November, so don't really want to have to pay £100 myself to do the course again!!
12 December 2007, 11:45 AM
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12 December 2007, 12:02 PM
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afaik you don't actually need a licence to drive a forklift, it's just something that companies prefer. Or that was the case when i done mine. That's why i never bothered to renew it.
It'll just make thing easier if you are ever unfortunate enough to have an accident.
Can't see Calor having any right to hold onto it as you hold the licence not them. As Milamber says it's personal to you. Does that mean that my car licence belongs to my Mum and Dad as they paid for my lessons and my test? Nope.
Hope you get it sorted mate.
It'll just make thing easier if you are ever unfortunate enough to have an accident.
Can't see Calor having any right to hold onto it as you hold the licence not them. As Milamber says it's personal to you. Does that mean that my car licence belongs to my Mum and Dad as they paid for my lessons and my test? Nope.
Hope you get it sorted mate.
12 December 2007, 12:12 PM
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In our company if anyone takes a paid course which is beneficial to themselves then if they leave with in a year they have to pay for the course.
Kinda like saying we will pay to train you, but we are doing this so it is beneficial to our company and our resources, not so you can go and get another job when we have invested in you!
So I reckon they are coming along the same lines.... could you not negotiate to pay £50 each and then you get the licence?
Also did they pay for the original licence or did you start work there with the licence already?
Kinda like saying we will pay to train you, but we are doing this so it is beneficial to our company and our resources, not so you can go and get another job when we have invested in you!
So I reckon they are coming along the same lines.... could you not negotiate to pay £50 each and then you get the licence?
Also did they pay for the original licence or did you start work there with the licence already?
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12 December 2007, 12:37 PM
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In our company if anyone takes a paid course which is beneficial to themselves then if they leave with in a year they have to pay for the course.
Kinda like saying we will pay to train you, but we are doing this so it is beneficial to our company and our resources, not so you can go and get another job when we have invested in you!
So I reckon they are coming along the same lines.... could you not negotiate to pay £50 each and then you get the licence?
Also did they pay for the original licence or did you start work there with the licence already?
Kinda like saying we will pay to train you, but we are doing this so it is beneficial to our company and our resources, not so you can go and get another job when we have invested in you!
So I reckon they are coming along the same lines.... could you not negotiate to pay £50 each and then you get the licence?
Also did they pay for the original licence or did you start work there with the licence already?
), the last course on the 19th was just a refresher.
12 December 2007, 12:40 PM
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In our company if anyone takes a paid course which is beneficial to themselves then if they leave with in a year they have to pay for the course.
Kinda like saying we will pay to train you, but we are doing this so it is beneficial to our company and our resources, not so you can go and get another job when we have invested in you!
So I reckon they are coming along the same lines.... could you not negotiate to pay £50 each and then you get the licence?
Also did they pay for the original licence or did you start work there with the licence already?
Kinda like saying we will pay to train you, but we are doing this so it is beneficial to our company and our resources, not so you can go and get another job when we have invested in you!
So I reckon they are coming along the same lines.... could you not negotiate to pay £50 each and then you get the licence?
Also did they pay for the original licence or did you start work there with the licence already?
12 December 2007, 12:46 PM
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The best of it is mate, I worked through an agency (Costin Mckenzie) at Calor, and I never had a contract of employment.
When I handed in my notice, I gave them the required 1 weeks notice, then they reckoned that I've got a statutory legal requirement that I must give 2 weeks notice, took advice from Milamber who said that's wrong, it's only one week, then it all kicked off at Calor/Costins I demanded to see my contract of employment (as I've said I didn't get one) and they withdrew the 2 week notice period, saying it wasn't worth them bringing the contract down to clarify the situation.
In short, Calor/Costins are VERY pi55ed off with me, hence being so bloody minded!! oh well never mind, there is life outside of that place and I'm enjoying my new job
When I handed in my notice, I gave them the required 1 weeks notice, then they reckoned that I've got a statutory legal requirement that I must give 2 weeks notice, took advice from Milamber who said that's wrong, it's only one week, then it all kicked off at Calor/Costins I demanded to see my contract of employment (as I've said I didn't get one) and they withdrew the 2 week notice period, saying it wasn't worth them bringing the contract down to clarify the situation.
In short, Calor/Costins are VERY pi55ed off with me, hence being so bloody minded!! oh well never mind, there is life outside of that place and I'm enjoying my new job
12 December 2007, 12:57 PM
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The best of it is mate, I worked through an agency (Costin Mckenzie) at Calor, and I never had a contract of employment.
When I handed in my notice, I gave them the required 1 weeks notice, then they reckoned that I've got a statutory legal requirement that I must give 2 weeks notice, took advice from Milamber who said that's wrong, it's only one week, then it all kicked off at Calor/Costins I demanded to see my contract of employment (as I've said I didn't get one) and they withdrew the 2 week notice period, saying it wasn't worth them bringing the contract down to clarify the situation.
In short, Calor/Costins are VERY pi55ed off with me, hence being so bloody minded!! oh well never mind, there is life outside of that place and I'm enjoying my new job
When I handed in my notice, I gave them the required 1 weeks notice, then they reckoned that I've got a statutory legal requirement that I must give 2 weeks notice, took advice from Milamber who said that's wrong, it's only one week, then it all kicked off at Calor/Costins I demanded to see my contract of employment (as I've said I didn't get one) and they withdrew the 2 week notice period, saying it wasn't worth them bringing the contract down to clarify the situation.
In short, Calor/Costins are VERY pi55ed off with me, hence being so bloody minded!! oh well never mind, there is life outside of that place and I'm enjoying my new job
12 December 2007, 01:09 PM
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What company name is on the licence?
Is it a "Calor" competency type card or is it an independant licence like a CITB/CPCS/CSCS etc.
If it's any of the CITB/CPCS/CSCS type then you should have held the licence anyway and not them.
Is it a "Calor" competency type card or is it an independant licence like a CITB/CPCS/CSCS etc.
If it's any of the CITB/CPCS/CSCS type then you should have held the licence anyway and not them.
12 December 2007, 01:53 PM
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Paul, for £100 why not take it again at your expense and stick two fingers up to Calor? Seems like a lot of grief for £100.............. I know the principle is there, but with the higher salary............. is it really worth the bother?
12 December 2007, 03:18 PM
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If you still work there then I have a plan
Launch off down the grievance procedure, get head office involved and let them know how much of a small minded little bully they are employing as a manger..... they've already indicated their willingness to back down when you confront them so they will probably just hand over your licence
Launch off down the grievance procedure, get head office involved and let them know how much of a small minded little bully they are employing as a manger..... they've already indicated their willingness to back down when you confront them so they will probably just hand over your licence
12 December 2007, 05:47 PM
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Whaoooooooooooo 2 Pages before someone suggested that
Phew !!
12 December 2007, 09:02 PM
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Do some research into the personal life of whoever ir is causing probs, maybe dig up some dirt ..... spread it around a bit, cause him/her/them more problems than they are causing you, then they learn NOT to mess in the future
If no dirt is to be found, claim that the real reason you left was because his sexual advances were not wanted by you, and working there was becoming a pain, what with having to try and keep away from him
If no dirt is to be found, claim that the real reason you left was because his sexual advances were not wanted by you, and working there was becoming a pain, what with having to try and keep away from him